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Old Dec 24, 2016 | 08:11 AM
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Default Tapping s484 housing for WG boost reference?

Are you guys jus drill n tapping the housing directly? Or is welding a 1/4" npt bung necessary?
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Im gunna run a -4an tee to plumb both my wastegates with ss AN lines. I have plenty of extra hose n sum fittings already. I figure than heat source and lines blowing off wont bevan issue...ever!
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Old Dec 24, 2016 | 08:17 AM
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Pick your poisin, mine is drilled and tapped
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Old Dec 24, 2016 | 11:36 AM
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Old Dec 24, 2016 | 11:51 AM
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Referencing boost from your compressor housing isn't usually the best idea.
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Old Dec 24, 2016 | 02:09 PM
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I agree with Joe for 2 reasons. 1)the compressor housing is where you will see the most fluctuation in pressure.
2)there is virtually no head loss here. Even without an intercooler, there can be a drastic pressure drop between compressor and throttle blade. So you might show 21psi at the compressor but the engine is only really seeing 19.

If you do decide to tap the compressor directly, a good rule of thumb is about 1/2 diameter of the thread is how thick the tapped area should be. So if you have a 3/8 thread sensor, pick a spot in the compressor that is at least 3/16 thick. Just a rule of thumb tho
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Old Dec 24, 2016 | 03:14 PM
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Where would you guys pull wastegate pressure source from? Im still learning, read that wastegates arent meant to see vacuum. Post intercooler, but before TB? Before or after BOV?
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Old Dec 24, 2016 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
Referencing boost from your compressor housing isn't usually the best idea.
He's controlling boost via them and yes it is an ideal location.

And others complaining about pressure drop in the system....then they need to rectify that problem.
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Old Dec 24, 2016 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
He's controlling boost via them and yes it is an ideal location.

And others complaining about pressure drop in the system....then they need to rectify that problem.
I was under the impression that this was the spot u would use if at all possible for the wastegate to be referenced from I could be wrong i guess but I did it this way based off how my tuner told me he would do it. Also when I'm having issues like before where the turbo wasn't making boost I just simply unplugged wastegate and hooked the gaige up instead to verify immediately it was indeed the turbo and not a boost leak or similar issue
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Old Dec 24, 2016 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Dimeomboost
I was under the impression that this was the spot u would use if at all possible for the wastegate to be referenced from I could be wrong i guess but I did it this way based off how my tuner told me he would do it. Also when I'm having issues like before where the turbo wasn't making boost I just simply unplugged wastegate and hooked the gaige up instead to verify immediately it was indeed the turbo and not a boost leak or similar issue
I think he was agreeing. However, now im alil more confused based on these conflicting posts
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I reference mine after the intercooler. You can see a pressure drop from the compressor cover to when it finally gets to the throttle body.
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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
He's controlling boost via them and yes it is an ideal location.

And others complaining about pressure drop in the system....then they need to rectify that problem.
Your posts normally make sense, but the reality is that pressure drop happens in every system. You can try your best to lower the issue, but it is not a problem that can be "rectified". The compressor housing is not indicative of pressure readings at the intake manifold, which is what most people are concerned with. The only reason I would ever care about compressor housing readings is if I wanted pressure ratio numbers to analyze efficiency of my combo.
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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by gametech
Your posts normally make sense, but the reality is that pressure drop happens in every system. You can try your best to lower the issue, but it is not a problem that can be "rectified". The compressor housing is not indicative of pressure readings at the intake manifold, which is what most people are concerned with. The only reason I would ever care about compressor housing readings is if I wanted pressure ratio numbers to analyze efficiency of my combo.
And as said, if you have large pressure drops, then fix that. A well built system should have almost negligible drop. Poor pipework and chinese cores wont help that of course, but it can be rectified.

And the pressure sourced used for boost control doesnt need to be indicative of intake manifold pressure....otherwise all those using CO2 or other external high pressure air sources would be fucked, as that has nothing to do with intake pressure
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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 12:44 PM
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Excellent info here. Thanx fellas.
So as i originally asked, it should be ok to just tap n thread the housing (thickest part) for lets say a 1/4npt fitting?
Am i better off with a different size/thread pitch?
Im using -4an to feed both wastegates from this 1 source
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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 02:39 PM
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1/8" NPT would be fine, 1/4" NPT is ******* huge.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
1/8" NPT would be fine, 1/4" NPT is ******* huge.
Ok, i havnt checked yet, but for sum reason i thought that was the size ports on WGs. Trying to keep em all the same/simple...even with teeing em together. If its 1/8" npt, would i be better off running -3 AN to them vs. -4AN?
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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 03:28 PM
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-4 is fine.
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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 09:57 PM
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I think this thread got jacked up with people not realizing the OP was asking for WASTEGATE referencing, not a boost reading.
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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 3 window
I think this thread got jacked up with people not realizing the OP was asking for WASTEGATE referencing, not a boost reading.
Exactly what I was thinking
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Old Dec 26, 2016 | 11:31 PM
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1/8" NPT would typically net a 1/4" OD nipple on the other end.
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Old Dec 27, 2016 | 07:45 AM
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tap that round boss mark about 5" away from the outlet. the cover is thicker there. 1/8th will be fine
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