Help me understand this.....spraying Meth after the MAF......
Actually I researched how to do it, after you mentioned it and gave me the lead on it. Honestly I don't like it, or think it is really the right way to do it, it really is doing 2 wrongs to make a right IMO. This is just my personal opinion, I'm not judging anyone that likes it, it is just not how I would do it. I like the deleting the MAF option better. There are pitfalls to either method, we are taking about an ECU not designed to function at the power and airflow levels we are dealing with, and making it work. I just think the pitfalls of using the MAF (without the other functions that come in a good SD OS designed for boost, which has boost enrichment tables etc) are potentially worse than going with an SD OS and going that way. Main thing I don't like is that all fueling in boost is handled by the MAF function only, there is no way to utilize or fine tune the VE table in boost going that way, because it doesn't exist in the OS that has MAF enabled, the VE table stops at 105 kPa in those OS. Also there is no fall back fueling if the MAF were to malfunction. I guess the same thing can happen on a SD car if the MAP fails, but I feel more confident in those. I believe the MAF is more delicate, and in a more vulnerable position on the engine to be damaged or fail.
You will find people on both sides of this argument, but a lot more are on the SD side of it now. One of the reasons, is there are more people using HPTuners than EFI Live on these platforms. The methods used to get around this MAF limitation existed before there were some of the more recent SD OS's available for use. Their availability has drastically reduced the number of people using a MAF meter, on boosted setups. Look at the builds in the Forced Induction setup and see how many are using a MAF? They are hard to find.
You will find people on both sides of this argument, but a lot more are on the SD side of it now. One of the reasons, is there are more people using HPTuners than EFI Live on these platforms. The methods used to get around this MAF limitation existed before there were some of the more recent SD OS's available for use. Their availability has drastically reduced the number of people using a MAF meter, on boosted setups. Look at the builds in the Forced Induction setup and see how many are using a MAF? They are hard to find.
You can tune around it yes, but with the MAF, aren't you limited to one boost level once you "hack" the tune? Like if I wanted to run 12psi on the street... and I'm making 700rwhp. And then at the track and run 22... and I'm at 950rwhp. I have to load a new tune for the track correct? I can't just up the boost controller from 12 to 22 like you can with a 3-bar SD tune? Or am I wrong in that assumption?
You can tune around it yes, but with the MAF, aren't you limited to one boost level once you "hack" the tune? Like if I wanted to run 12psi on the street... and I'm making 700rwhp. And then at the track and run 22... and I'm at 950rwhp. I have to load a new tune for the track correct? I can't just up the boost controller from 12 to 22 like you can with a 3-bar SD tune? Or am I wrong in that assumption?
Okay interesting. Thanks.
And I don't think it's extreme... that's what I plan to do. 700rwhp is much easier on parts on the street than 900+... but for a race, you want everything available. Or if you're sandbagging...
And I don't think it's extreme... that's what I plan to do. 700rwhp is much easier on parts on the street than 900+... but for a race, you want everything available. Or if you're sandbagging...
that's understandable but also pretty quick to load your 900hp tune when you get to the track.
Yea...the middle east is completely twisted. Some things good....lots of things bad....LOL
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SD... and don't look back. My Trans Am is on a 3 Bar SD OS. All on SBE Gen III parts with FI S485, runs 5.7X's on baby soft 60' all while weighing a **** ton.
Maybe I missed it, where are you now? I just got back from Bahrain not to long ago. Stay safe man!
Maybe I missed it, where are you now? I just got back from Bahrain not to long ago. Stay safe man!
But I was also told it may be too much for it.....what do you think.
....I fly all over the Middle East region......mainly Beirut, Oman, Bahrain, Riyadh and we're based in Dubai. We don't go to Cairo anymore since an assassination of my boss was attempted while we were there in August last year. Used to go to Erbil, Iraq until ISIS went through and started killing everyone in mid 2014. Lots of people I knew there are dead. My boss was going to build a couple schools and a childrens hospital....$200 million of his own cash. It was a great city when we went there, now its a death trap.
We also fly to Europe a lot for his fun trips, going to Romania on the 20th, over-flying Iran going through Turkey.
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Wow, thanks for the heads up on Dubai. Reminds me of all the tourists that go to Hollywood. There's NOTHING glamorous about Hollywood.
Young punks that threaten imminent death... they're everywhere, especially in bars. You'd think, with all their money and what that comes with, the upper crust wouldn't have to stoop. Young fragile egos. I guess money and privilege can't cure that, nor guarantee any level of class.
Well... Scratch Dubai off the to-do list. How about Abu Dhabi? Same there?
Young punks that threaten imminent death... they're everywhere, especially in bars. You'd think, with all their money and what that comes with, the upper crust wouldn't have to stoop. Young fragile egos. I guess money and privilege can't cure that, nor guarantee any level of class.
Well... Scratch Dubai off the to-do list. How about Abu Dhabi? Same there?
...You could say "absorbs" but even I can nitpick this and say that the energy is invested into translational, transitional and similar (twisting, jostling, etc) movements of the molecular bond energy, and so on and so forth until we are discussion electronic configuration and cloud orientations.
Like I said, a little nitpicky. However, I think it's an important detail for those that really want to understand how/why.
This quest to know everything... There is no bottom, no end, and every question answered creates 2+ new questions. Absolutely maddening at times. LOL
Wow, thanks for the heads up on Dubai. Reminds me of all the tourists that go to Hollywood. There's NOTHING glamorous about Hollywood.
Young punks that threaten imminent death... they're everywhere, especially in bars. You'd think, with all their money and what that comes with, the upper crust wouldn't have to stoop. Young fragile egos. I guess money and privilege can't cure that, nor guarantee any level of class.
Well... Scratch Dubai off the to-do list. How about Abu Dhabi? Same there?
Young punks that threaten imminent death... they're everywhere, especially in bars. You'd think, with all their money and what that comes with, the upper crust wouldn't have to stoop. Young fragile egos. I guess money and privilege can't cure that, nor guarantee any level of class.
Well... Scratch Dubai off the to-do list. How about Abu Dhabi? Same there?
The only city in the UAE thats worth anything is Dubai. But again, its a 2 day deal and you're done.
In Dubai...the Sheikh here realizes his religion and traditions are crap and if he wants people from around the world to continue to come there as tourists he BETTER let it be as much like America as possible. And it is......there are many more bars in Dubai then in Ft. Lauderdale or Miami, hookers everywhere, boating, beaches, even strip clubs. If you get caught in a strip club and you are American they will let you walk away. They will then arrest a few people and shut it down. Then they move it somewhere else. They let them stay open for a little while then shut them down, knowing they will open back up. But they need to also appease their citizens acting like they are also doing what they want.
The arrogant punks are just that, punks. A friend of mine from Los Angeles was here for two weeks and we all went out and one of these punks messed with him....he put him to sleep outside the club. Then we had to haul ***....lol
So, my co-worker got in a car accident last week. She was stopped in traffic and fro ma side street an Emirate women slammed into her passenger side, straight into the car. The women gets out and starts telling all the Indian and Pakistanis to tell the police that it was her fault when they arrive. The cops here have a procedure though, they show up, they talk to nobody, they look at the scene and they make their decision on who was at fault. Luckily all the Pakistanis and Indians told the police it was the Emirate ladies fault and that she was telling them to tell a lie. This women argued with the police....they fined her for arguing, then gave her the ticket. BUT....my co-workers car was totaled and her leg was badly bruised where she couldn't walk for one week and spent two nights in the hospital.
NOT allowed to sue for pain and suffering and you must pay for your own medical expenses. BULLSHIT.
BUT, if you hurt an Emirate in an accident....you will go to jail if you do not pay them what they say is fair. Its called Blood Money Rule. Its true. If you kill someone BY ACCIDENT......you could be there working to pay the family back for 25 years. Or go to jail. Its bullshit.
They are the most unfair, discriminatory people anywhere. Its a miracle the Emirate lady got the ticket, but probably because she was a screaming arrogant bitch.
Another friend got rear-ended at a traffic light and my friend got the ticket. The Emirate said to the cops that he backed up into him. Done, case closed. It all depends on who they are. Thousands are related in some way to the Royal Family, so they are untouchable.
Did you watch "Slaves of Dubai" on youtube.....? Thats what the Sheikh of Dubai allows to happen.
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