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Old May 16, 2017 | 01:43 PM
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I skipped all the answers here, lol. What I would do is know your goals first. Know your budget. I like to search for all the info I can find, find someone that has built an engine or setup as close to mine as possible, see what they did and used and finally, speak to the cam company, converter ect which will get you fine tuned.

I asked for help too. But even after getting the advice I still research it to death when possible.
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Old May 16, 2017 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
Most of the people that come here looking for info usually just end up having it fed to them with a giant silver spoon.
That's true. It's probably appropriate for "most" people, that just want the solution.

Nothing wrong with that in my mind. It's not the majority that are interested and passionate enough about the process to geek out on it, like some of us.

Some want their car to do xyz. Some want an engine to do xyz, no matter what the vehicle does. Only a few want to know the how and why, of the how and why.

Sometimes, I just want to know how to remove a stain. And have zero interest in fabric and thread chemistry and why a stain is a stain, and the chemical reactions that take place between a specific cleaner and the source of the stain... Just tell me how to remove the stain. Give me the big giant silver spoon solution.

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Old May 16, 2017 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
Most of the people that come here looking for info usually just end up having it fed to them with a giant silver spoon.
But only after pages of drivel and vague and endless questions often nothing to do with what the actual answer is they need !
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Old May 16, 2017 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SethU
That's true. It's probably appropriate for "most" people, that just want the solution.

Nothing wrong with that in my mind. It's not the majority that are interested and passionate enough about the process to geek out on it, like some of us.

Some want their car to do xyz. Some want an engine to do xyz, no matter what the vehicle does. Only a few want to know the how and why, of the how and why.

Sometimes, I just want to know how to remove a stain. And have zero interest in fabric and thread chemistry and why a stain is a stain, and the chemical reactions that take place between a specific cleaner and the source of the stain... Just tell me how to remove the stain. Give me the big giant silver spoon solution.
One of my old bosses use to say "I don't want to know how to build a watch, just want to know what time it is. " Id kinda like to know what make the watch "know" what time it is.
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Old May 16, 2017 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by newschool72
One of my old bosses use to say "I don't want to know how to build a watch, just want to know what time it is. " Id kinda like to know what make the watch "know" what time it is.
I haven't heard that one before. Gonna have to put that one on que.

Typically, I like to know the why and how of things too. However, it's literally impossible to do it all the way down to the core science in every situation and aspect of life that presents itself, or sparks the thought in my head "I wonder how that works". It's mentally taxing enough to master a specific job in life, and maybe a couple hobbies... to then create a mastery level understanding of flight aerodynamics, world economics, or (OMG) any opinion/belief based subject that literally has no end... religion, politics, Coke or Pepsi.

Sometimes, that phrase is just appropriate. More so, to tell myself.

Thanks for sharing that.
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Old May 16, 2017 | 02:39 PM
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i get most of my info from fox news, russia times and **** hub.

wait, what was the question?
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Old May 16, 2017 | 02:50 PM
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i get most of my info from fox news, russia times and **** hub.

wait, what was the question?
Never heard of the first two. Any good?
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Old May 16, 2017 | 04:04 PM
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Never heard of the first two. Any good?

i dunno I was lying about them so I didnt appear out of touch about current events.


true answer:

I racked up 20+ years or so of messing with NA (lil bit of spray here n there) v8 cars of various makes and power levels

then I watched some sloppy mechanics videos and read the wiki and built a turbo set up and broke lots of stuff.

in the early 90's I wanted a GN and couldnt afford one (and they were cheap too!) . in the early 2000's I wanted a vette or a camaro and couldnt afford one. now I can afford whatever and rather spend my time with SBE stuff and ebay turbos....breaking all sorts of stuff in the process which is the price of an education I guess
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Old May 17, 2017 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by truckdoug
i dunno I was lying about them so I didnt appear out of touch about current events.


true answer:

I racked up 20+ years or so of messing with NA (lil bit of spray here n there) v8 cars of various makes and power levels

then I watched some sloppy mechanics videos and read the wiki and built a turbo set up and broke lots of stuff.

in the early 90's I wanted a GN and couldnt afford one (and they were cheap too!) . in the early 2000's I wanted a vette or a camaro and couldnt afford one. now I can afford whatever and rather spend my time with SBE stuff and ebay turbos....breaking all sorts of stuff in the process which is the price of an education I guess
Ya ever notice the exponential nature of it all... the more I learn, the more I realize I don't know. Each new question or curiosity answered creates two or more new questions in need of understanding. Just never ends!
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Old May 17, 2017 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SethU
Ya ever notice the exponential nature of it all... the more I learn, the more I realize I don't know. Each new question or curiosity answered creates two or more new questions in need of understanding. Just never ends!

thats the beauty of it bro. there's always something new to learn and run out to the shop and try
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Old May 17, 2017 | 03:24 PM
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set solid goals and read a bunch. make a parts list. follow it...unless something better comes out while gathering parts.

be specific - my goal is 600 whp sbe gen 4 5.3 with 4L80 and a 3.73 rear gear on a 28" tire in a 3800 lb truck and run 11.99 or better.

Layout a goal like that then start reading.... i researched for like 3 years while gathering parts i had read will work for this goal...

Then you can google 600 wheel hp sbe 5.3....
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Old May 18, 2017 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Narxoleptic
set solid goals and read a bunch. make a parts list. follow it...unless something better comes out while gathering parts.

be specific - my goal is 600 whp sbe gen 4 5.3 with 4L80 and a 3.73 rear gear on a 28" tire in a 3800 lb truck and run 11.99 or better.

Layout a goal like that then start reading.... i researched for like 3 years while gathering parts i had read will work for this goal...

Then you can google 600 wheel hp sbe 5.3....
While I completely agree with Narxoleptic there is a flip side to that coin.
I built my turbo car on a very small budget, all used parts and came to the conclusion it will make what ever it makes.
The ultimate goal was to have a fun street car and do it cheap so budget ultimately determined how much power my car would make, whether it would be a street car or race car or what ever.
A budget will also help you determine a build timeline, my small budget meant a two year build time with gathering parts and wrenching.
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Old May 18, 2017 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by truckdoug
thats the beauty of it bro. there's always something new to learn and run out to the shop and try
Now that I think about it a little more, there have been times I've followed a curiosity to the point that no more questions remained... And my mind didn't have anything to figure out for a couple days. It's an awkward feeling for me.

You're absolutely right Doug. The seemingly never ending, exponential nature of it, is the beauty of it.
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