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All good points , I appreciate the info here guys.
Currently the ProCharged car is at 540 RWHP (Z28) and it’s a blast to drive but it’s a bit of a handful only because of the manually shifted and locked 4l80e and the spool in the rear ended . 3600 stall and 6psi of boost happen quickly with little to no effort .
I will definitely up the injectors when putting things together and I may just keep the boost around the 12 psi area and see how it drives (remember it’s not a race car) I haven’t even found the local street racers yet in this new town, lol.
Only the random Stoplight Nationals ,and even that’s rare here.
I’d love to keep the car a drive anytime anywhere street car, I just already have these pieces/parts and am planning on putting them together with the iron block 370.
Thanks again guys !!
"Too much for the street" depends on if you can drive or not. I see people driving stone stock trucks, prius's, civics.... and those are too much for some people.
"Too much for the street" depends on if you can drive or not. I see people driving stone stock trucks, prius's, civics.... and those are too much for some people.
LMAO. I agree with this. I also strongly feel that good brakes, good suspension, a decent tire, and a form of boost control and/or traction control can make or break a safe, fun, and fast street car.
those injectors are way too small. 80lb injectors minimum.
no way it's too much, I could hook up 3rd gear and sometimes second WOT with 760whp and 740tq with just 19" nt05r rear tires.
I will say at 900whp and 860tq though it will spin those nt05r on the freeway at 75mph sometimes. 6 speed and 3.42 gears. I drive my car all the time to home depot, get groceries, get coffee, etc. and it's been super reliable once i got the bugs worked out.
imo around 850whp is the perfect place for a street car as it's fast enough to scare the shiz out of you everytime but not so much power that it's always broken and super complicated. people like to talk about 1k whp but I don't know a lot of guys making more than that who aren't working on them constantly or have them in the shop all the time.
with 15" tires you can hook up 800whp on the street all day.
I think F series blower is overkill for what you're doing. lots of guys have made >800whp with a D1SC and the new D1X looks like capable of >900whp and has less blower parastic drag so easier to setup on the belts etc and cheaper with lower IATs etc and fantastic torque. I would do the D1X personally.
I think F series blower is overkill for what you're doing. lots of guys have made >800whp with a D1SC and the new D1X looks like capable of >900whp and has less blower parastic drag so easier to setup on the belts etc and cheaper with lower IATs etc and fantastic torque. I would do the D1X personally.
I already own all the parts so what I have is what I’m working with. Currently the F1 is pullied to 6psi on the Camaro in sig.
I think 700 -750 RWHP is a acheavable number for a drive anywhere anytime reliable set up. Time will tell . The new D1 does look impressive .
"Too much for the street" depends on if you can drive or not. I see people driving stone stock trucks, prius's, civics.... and those are too much for some people.
The dyno graph below is from an LS2/402 and with an F-1A at 12.4 psi of boost. The customer took his CTS-V to another shop's dyno day and made 900 on their DynoJet. This cam would work very well for you. Bob
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Thanks for the cam suggestion Bob.
That CTS-V is a powerhouse , nice!!
Maybe I don’t need to go 14-15 psi like I originally thought to get the 700-750 RWHP.
Dave
Thanks for the cam suggestion Bob.
That CTS-V is a powerhouse , nice!!
Maybe I don’t need to go 14-15 psi like I originally thought to get the 700-750 RWHP.
Dave
You're welcome Dave. A well built engine with no less than 9.5/1 compression with a good cam, heads, intake manifold and exhaust can easily make 700 to 750 rwhp with less than 14 psi.
We were at 14.4 psi with the V with a stock LS2 intake manifold, we swapped it out for a FAST 92 and we lost two psi but the power went from 809 to 864 rwhp! Bob
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You guys are pretty crazy! I'd never consider street driving a car at 750+rwhp. I want a car that hooks on the streets. That's the one thing I loved about my nitrous nova when I had it. On the street it made mid 550's and with the et streets would always dead hook. Then arm it and the separate fuel cell with 116 in it would activate, warm the bottle, and at the press of the button would hit a 250 shot. Great for racing but man I hated running a second cell and refilling bottles. When I'd spray on the streets it looked like John force was cruising by. Which funny enough is always a possibility he lives like 2 miles from me.
You guys are pretty crazy! I'd never consider street driving a car at 750+rwhp. I want a car that hooks on the streets. That's the one thing I loved about my nitrous nova when I had it. On the street it made mid 550's and with the et streets would always dead hook. Then arm it and the separate fuel cell with 116 in it would activate, warm the bottle, and at the press of the button would hit a 250 shot. Great for racing but man I hated running a second cell and refilling bottles. When I'd spray on the streets it looked like John force was cruising by. Which funny enough is always a possibility he lives like 2 miles from me.
I am at 850 rwhp right now on 16 pounds with my build and it isn't too much for the street, it is actually quite fun. It is going to the shop next week for some ID1700 injectors and dual 450 pump and E85 shooting for 1000 rwhp around 22 pounds.
I am at 850 rwhp right now on 16 pounds with my build and it isn't too much for the street, it is actually quite fun. It is going to the shop next week for some ID1700 injectors and dual 450 pump and E85 shooting for 1000 rwhp around 22 pounds.
750whp can be very reliable imo, when my vette was 760whp if i'd had a smaller cam in it I would not have hesitated to daily drive it. bigger cam just as reliable but was a bit uncomfortable on the street for hours in traffic etc.
there are many many guys making 750whp with ECS/A&A kits on literally stock ls3 with e85 or meth. It's easy to hook that level of power up too with drag raidals imo.
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