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Old Sep 14, 2018 | 12:34 PM
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My Gen IV LM7 had dished pistons, from what I've researched only the L33 and 4.8's had flat tops.
Mine were definitely flat tops..... Isn't an lm7 only gen 3? Mine is a ly5
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Old Sep 14, 2018 | 12:36 PM
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I would keep that turbo, fix the leak, look for other issues, and possibly adjust timing to help spool
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Old Sep 14, 2018 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ls1charged
Mine were definitely flat tops..... Isn't an lm7 only gen 3? Mine is a ly5
I think mine was a bit of a unicorn, 2005 LM7 w/ Gen IV guts, verified 5.3 via crank number and even had the 24x tooth reluctor wheel.
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Old Sep 14, 2018 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by The ******
I think mine was a bit of a unicorn, 2005 LM7 w/ Gen IV guts, verified 5.3 via crank number and even had the 24x tooth reluctor wheel.
Lucky! Lol
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Old Sep 14, 2018 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by The ******
I think mine was a bit of a unicorn, 2005 LM7 w/ Gen IV guts, verified 5.3 via crank number and even had the 24x tooth reluctor wheel.
That's not a unicorn at all. All 05-07 LM7s have gen 4 guts and 24x wheel.
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Old Sep 14, 2018 | 01:37 PM
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And only the VVT engines have valve reliefs.
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Old Sep 14, 2018 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
That's not a unicorn at all. All 05-07 LM7s have gen 4 guts and 24x wheel.
Just had to burst my bubble didn't you...
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Old Sep 14, 2018 | 02:35 PM
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^Lol, I have 3 LH6's (one might actually be an L33) and they all have flat tops with valve reliefs.
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Old Sep 14, 2018 | 08:12 PM
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A billet S480/87 1.10 T4 on my 5.3 with a baby cam spools like a light switch. The torque is brutal, power is always there.

Something is wrong.
What kind of timing and AFR do you run until you have few PSI in it? I had taken some suggestions from Slow Sedan awhile back and leaned it out to low 13's/high 12's AFR until 3500 rpm's and ramp down to low 11's from there. Timing is ~NA until 3k and then ramps down to mid teen's @ 3500.
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turn up to 700 wheel so it makes more power down low as well ez pz
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turn up to 700 wheel so it makes more power down low as well ez pz
I'll pass lol the car is useless as it is when I get to full boost on street tires
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Old Sep 15, 2018 | 02:21 PM
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What kind of timing and AFR do you run until you have few PSI in it? I had taken some suggestions from Slow Sedan awhile back and leaned it out to low 13's/high 12's AFR until 3500 rpm's and ramp down to low 11's from there. Timing is ~NA until 3k and then ramps down to mid teen's @ 3500.

I leave 25+ degrees in until 120kPa and mid 12's gas afr. six liter, short duration wide lsa cam similar turbo to joes. 70% alcohol. ramped down to 15º at peak torque area


lights fast for a 96x88 t4 turbine I'm told. same motor with a billet 7875 was like having a PD blower though.
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Old Sep 15, 2018 | 06:35 PM
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I leave 25+ degrees in until 120kPa and mid 12's gas afr. six liter, short duration wide lsa cam similar turbo to joes. 70% alcohol. ramped down to 15º at peak torque area


lights fast for a 96x88 t4 turbine I'm told. same motor with a billet 7875 was like having a PD blower though.
I know that extra .7liters and 70% alcohol is helping. Not sure I can put that much extra timing in it but I guess we can try some more. I don't think it's unreasonably conservative once I took Slow Sedans advice. Part of me really thinks it's partially just a low compression 5.3. We do need to pressure test too.
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Old Sep 15, 2018 | 10:14 PM
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It's weird that size really matters. Part of me wonders though if its really the cubes or the valve shrouding from using 2.0 valves on a small bore motor. Especially when I see the power Holdener makes with the small valve truck heads.

On a somewhat related note, I have a flat top piston'd 5.3 with 317 heads and a baby cam in my NA truck and it just doesn't make the power I think it should. Maybe not enough cam but it just runs out of steam at 5500.
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Originally Posted by truckdoug
On a somewhat related note, I have a flat top piston'd 5.3 with 317 heads and a baby cam in my NA truck and it just doesn't make the power I think it should. Maybe not enough cam but it just runs out of steam at 5500.
thats interesting, I haven't really paid attention to how high people are reving there 5.3s..... 317s would make even lower compression then my 241s.... When I researched the 7875 before buying it, I saw alot saying it doesn't really shine until 15+psi, I'm only running 10psi. I feel like I'm underutilizing the turbo with low boost and not reving it higher then 6200, but I'm ok with how much power it makes for a dd, just want to figure out the lag
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Originally Posted by ls1charged
thats interesting, I haven't really paid attention to how high people are reving there 5.3s..... 317s would make even lower compression then my 241s.... When I researched the 7875 before buying it, I saw alot saying it doesn't really shine until 15+psi, I'm only running 10psi. I feel like I'm underutilizing the turbo with low boost and not reving it higher then 6200, but I'm ok with how much power it makes for a dd, just want to figure out the lag
That is absolutely incorrect imo, 15psi is when it starts running out of steam. Maybe on a 2jz it would really start to come alive at 15 but on a large cube v8 it maxes out very quickly
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Old Sep 16, 2018 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by truckdoug
It's weird that size really matters. Part of me wonders though if its really the cubes or the valve shrouding from using 2.0 valves on a small bore motor. Especially when I see the power Holdener makes with the small valve truck heads.

On a somewhat related note, I have a flat top piston'd 5.3 with 317 heads and a baby cam in my NA truck and it just doesn't make the power I think it should. Maybe not enough cam but it just runs out of steam at 5500.
I think it's just pure exhaust pressure. Bigger the motor the more exhaust you have to push the turbine wheel. Increasing cfms with some better heads would likely help, but so would more compression.
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Old Sep 16, 2018 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MY_2K_Z
That is absolutely incorrect imo, 15psi is when it starts running out of steam. Maybe on a 2jz it would really start to come alive at 15 but on a large cube v8 it maxes out very quickly
When I was doing my research, it was only on people running 5.3s and a 7875 because that's what I was building....however, It's much more difficult to search same cams and head setups so IMO that can be where the difference is in mine...
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
What kind of timing and AFR do you run until you have few PSI in it? I had taken some suggestions from Slow Sedan awhile back and leaned it out to low 13's/high 12's AFR until 3500 rpm's and ramp down to low 11's from there. Timing is ~NA until 3k and then ramps down to mid teen's @ 3500.
I stay N/A on the AFR and timing until after boost has started to build, regardless of RPM.
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
I stay N/A on the AFR and timing until after boost has started to build, regardless of RPM.
I was just using rpm as a reference since everyone in here is saying how their 7875 practically spools at idle.
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