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Old Apr 20, 2023 | 01:12 PM
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I would "bench test" it to get your PID settings right. You use the datalogger to see the commanded dome pressure vs actual, then adjust your PID settings accordingly.

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Old Apr 20, 2023 | 01:24 PM
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I would "bench test" it to get your PID settings right. You use the datalogger to see the commanded dome pressure vs actual, then adjust your PID settings accordingly.

Okay perfect I'll grab a little compressor to try out the different settings to get out close to what I'm looking for
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Old Apr 20, 2023 | 04:05 PM
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Any reason why my vent duty cycle is 100%?? And my dome pressure sensor is pegged at 200 psi
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Old Apr 20, 2023 | 04:43 PM
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Any reason why my vent duty cycle is 100%?? And my dome pressure sensor is pegged at 200 psi
wired wrong, wrong data for the sensor, wrong sensor selected.

Without know what all you have and how it's setup I'm just guessing right now.
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Old Apr 20, 2023 | 05:00 PM
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wired wrong, wrong data for the sensor, wrong sensor selected.

Without know what all you have and how it's setup I'm just guessing right now.
Yea sorry about that it was pretty vague of me. Okay so I'm teed off compressor housing going to bottom port of wastegate then to fill side of the dual solenoid setup. Coming off the tee between the solenoids goes to the top port of the wastegate and I've got a 200 psi 5v sensor in the dome too.

Dome is configured as custom pressure in the I/O and pinned to J2-A1. Solenoids are pinned fill J2-B6 vent J2-B8
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Old Apr 20, 2023 | 07:26 PM
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When I check the voltage at the dome sensor pigtail I'm getting like 4.59V. How can that be?? I'm using the 5v pin on the Holley ECU and ground. I've got a transmission pressure sensor on the same pins and it's working as it should

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Old Apr 21, 2023 | 07:57 AM
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Fairly easy to rule out if it is the actual sensor or a wiring configuration

a 200lb dome sensor sounds far less than ideal anyway
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Old Apr 21, 2023 | 08:57 AM
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Fairly easy to rule out if it is the actual sensor or a wiring configuration

a 200lb dome sensor sounds far less than ideal anyway
Yea I know it's not ideal but it's all I had. I've got a couple more on the way 50 and 100 psi. Had to take a break from it all yesterday the frustration was mounting. I'll go over everything again just to cross my tees and dot my eyes.
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Old Apr 21, 2023 | 10:23 AM
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are you sure the pinout on the sensor connector is right? ive seen them get mixed up and read max like that
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Old Apr 21, 2023 | 10:26 AM
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are you sure the pinout on the sensor connector is right? ive seen them get mixed up and read max like that
I just put that on the list of things to check. Thanks. I'm hoping it's something that simple
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Old Apr 21, 2023 | 11:30 AM
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Are you getting that voltage with the connector unplugged or plugged in?

What is the dome pressure show in the software with it unplugged?
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Old Apr 21, 2023 | 11:37 AM
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Are you getting that voltage with the connector unplugged or plugged in?

What is the dome pressure show in the software with it unplugged?
That voltage was with the connector unplugged. In the software it shows 0 psi. Plugged in shows max. I'm just checking the pin out on the connector
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Old Apr 21, 2023 | 12:10 PM
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It's normal to see a little less on a 5v on a 5v circuit with it unplugged.

I'm going to "guess" and say its a wiring( pinout) issue. It sounds like it's dumping 5v back on the reference circuit which is causing it to show 200psi.

It could be a faulty sensor too.
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Old Apr 21, 2023 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by LilJayV10
It's normal to see a little less on a 5v on a 5v circuit with it unplugged.

I'm going to "guess" and say its a wiring( pinout) issue. It sounds like it's dumping 5v back on the reference circuit which is causing it to show 200psi.

It could be a faulty sensor too.
Okay so I changed the pin out on the sensor connector it's now reading 1 psi and does nothing else. And my solenoid duty cycle remains at 0. I'm definitely leaning towards this sensor being NFG. It's my understanding that if the dome sensor isn't functioning properly then the controller won't actually be doing anything hence why my solenoids remain idle.

I did verify the solenoids work by hooking one side to 12v and the other to ground and they do click over. And on the boost vs speed screen in the software the little red bubble is showing where the dome pressure is supposed to be. New sensor is here Monday or possible Sunday so I guess I'll just run it on spring pressure until then
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Old Apr 21, 2023 | 06:01 PM
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You just need to slow down here

You are obviously in raw dome control id take it

Add target boost(target dome)to your viewing window


If you never show target boost above zero you won’t have solenoid activity

do you have a master enable, what is your target boost at zero mph(if you are in speed)

screen shots of your boost config pages will allow us to sort you out
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Old Apr 21, 2023 | 06:18 PM
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You just need to slow down here

You are obviously in raw dome control id take it

Add target boost(target dome)to your viewing window


If you never show target boost above zero you won’t have solenoid activity

do you have a master enable, what is your target boost at zero mph(if you are in speed)

screen shots of your boost config pages will allow us to sort you out
This is an all new area I'm venturing into. I've basically left all the settings where they were out of the box except on the safeties. I don't have master enable. I am in speed and I set it 10 across the board to at least see what it's gonna do.

Any help is greatly appreciated. I'll post up some shots of the software setup
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Thought I posted earlier but I guess not

turn the TPS modulation off when you want to test the system.

te target boost and noid activity will be zero unless at zero percent throttle

or hold you throttle wide open or atleast above the modulation setpoint
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Thought I posted earlier but I guess not

turn the TPS modulation off when you want to test the system.

te target boost and noid activity will be zero unless at zero percent throttle

or hold you throttle wide open or atleast above the modulation setpoint
Alrighty I'll try it and see what happens. Is it a good idea to have it turned off all the time?? Or just have it on and adjust the TPS percentage accordingly?? Do any of my other settings look okay or anything you could recommend?? Thanks.

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i really really doubt its the sensor thats bad.
as was said above, add the target dome pressure to whatever dash or data viewer you are using, if it stays at zero then its a software setting. the tps modulation in this case.
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Okay so I took the dome sensor out and had it tested at a local shop and it was reading way off of what it should. No biggie, it was replaced. I updated the software/firmware to build 300. Turned TPS modulation down to 1% and target dome reads exactly what it should now. Used the output test feature and solenoids checked out.

I haven't had a chance to get it out yet as the rain rolled right in but it seems like everything is working as it should. Once the rain stops I'll get it out and take some logs. Thank you guys for all the help it was greatly appreciated
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