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Old Jan 9, 2025 | 02:27 AM
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The head popped off one of my HPA compressors at almost 4500psi one night. I had pieces of compressor all over my garage. There is an enormous difference between dealing with normal 120psi shop air and the high pressure stuff.
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Old Jan 9, 2025 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Old Buzzard
wouldn't last a whole road course lap... do not want.
"makes children cry"
Posts like this one makes adults cry!
... point being that not everybody drag races.

as for the crying: that simply came from a cruise-in where some dude had questions about my cam & wanted to hear it. his son was less than thrilled when he didn't expect long tubes, no cats, & dual 3" open cut-outs.
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Old Jan 13, 2025 | 10:25 AM
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A bit gimmicky in my opinion. If the manufacturer wanted to sponsor me and give me everything for free I would try it out. But no way I'm throwing away my turbo set up and spending my own money on a compressed air deal. Still very cool to see though and glad people are out there doing and trying new things!
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Old Jan 13, 2025 | 03:30 PM
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Yes, "bottle-fed".
My turbo, Circa WWII, WAS Bottle-fed and had a sparkplug.
It is not connected to the exhaust, thus no back pressure.
Two bottles, one OXY AND one Hydrogen feeding the hot side.
Lance, saved MANY lives !

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Old Jan 13, 2025 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Full Power
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TurboChargers are CHEAPER than Scuba tank compressors as well. Probably SAFER too... I'd rather have 14 PSI out of a chinese spinnie- thing than 2500 PSI bottle in the backseat.

Yes and no... some of the CAS guys are competitively running 3 sec 1/8th mile classes. The big name turbo/turbos used in those classes are a lot more than a tank compressor. Not to mention all the fab work those kinds of rigs need. Also doing it more reliably with less wear/tear and more consistently. All huge plusses that add up over a season. Likely less overhead in the long run as well. Esp. if you have more than one car running it.

Don't get me wrong I don't think its junkyard shade tree cheap yet like china turbo power adders. But it has alot of advantages. If it were to get popular and the prices of the valves and all came down a bit. I could see it catching on pretty dang quick!
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Old Jan 13, 2025 | 07:07 PM
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If they can scale it and price it correctly, you’ll see a lot less blown up engines…
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If they can scale it and price it correctly, you’ll see a lot less blown up engines…
Interesting you say that. What about these systems makes Joe Blow less likely to blow his engine up using it? If timing, air fuel, fueling, parts failure, etc. etc. are wrong it's still going to blow up?
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So how long until we start seeing specific CAS type cam shafts? Stage 3 CAS cam! LOL
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Originally Posted by blackdak318
Interesting you say that. What about these systems makes Joe Blow less likely to blow his engine up using it? If timing, air fuel, fueling, parts failure, etc. etc. are wrong it's still going to blow up?
Lots of reasons.

The tune-up window will be much wider due to the charge temps.More forgiving if a mistake is made.
Less exotic/expensive fuel needed. Less fuel system required. (no more methanol issues)
Less heat always means less wear and tear.
More consistency
No boost building or bumping in. zero lag or concern about launch boost being made. Tighter converters can be used.
No atmospheric changes in the tune up since ambient air isn't used.
More power per pound of boost. No other power adder will have the air density per pound.
No need for high compression/response. You could literally run a 6:1 motor and have it instantly make boost and the same if not more average power across the board with MUCH less peaky cyl pressures. So much easier to keep a head down.
Prob a dozen other reasons I haven’t thought of.
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Originally Posted by blackdak318
Interesting you say that. What about these systems makes Joe Blow less likely to blow his engine up using it? If timing, air fuel, fueling, parts failure, etc. etc. are wrong it's still going to blow up?
While you are correct, in that a bad tuneup will kill an engine regardless of type of boost…

I was gonna reply, but this guy covered it really well. Traditional boost creates heat. This does the opposite. Charge air at 32* or colder. Opens up the window a lot.
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Lots of reasons.

The tune-up window will be much wider due to the charge temps.More forgiving if a mistake is made.
Less exotic/expensive fuel needed. Less fuel system required. (no more methanol issues)
Less heat always means less wear and tear.
More consistency
No boost building or bumping in. zero lag or concern about launch boost being made. Tighter converters can be used.
No atmospheric changes in the tune up since ambient air isn't used.
More power per pound of boost. No other power adder will have the air density per pound.
No need for high compression/response. You could literally run a 6:1 motor and have it instantly make boost and the same if not more average power across the board with MUCH less peaky cyl pressures. So much easier to keep a head down.
Prob a dozen other reasons I haven’t thought of.

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