View Poll Results: STS Basic VS ATI P1SC
STS Turbo 5 PSI
37
52.11%
ATI PROCHARGER 5, 7 psi w/ P-1SC-1
34
47.89%
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STS BASIC vs ATI P1SC?
STS kit is great, but I bought my P1SC and have also bought the SDCE kit and have had no problems since I have gotten all pulleys aligned. I think both are great and lots of fun. If I were to buy a kit today, I would go with a turbo.
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ATI all the way. We can just sit at a light and turn heads. 
With the SDCE kit no slip and boost is plentiful. A D1 is good for over 15psi and can easily push 650 rwhp with the right internals, fuel and tuning. Turbos are great for printing out pretty dyno sheets. But on the street, Blowers are the way to go. 
Mike
With the SDCE kit no slip and boost is plentiful. A D1 is good for over 15psi and can easily push 650 rwhp with the right internals, fuel and tuning. Turbos are great for printing out pretty dyno sheets. But on the street, Blowers are the way to go. Mike
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Originally Posted by buschman
ATI all the way. We can just sit at a light and turn heads. With the SDCE kit no slip and boost is plentiful. A D1 is good for over 15psi and can easily push 650 rwhp with the right internals, fuel and tuning. Turbos are great for printing out pretty dyno sheets. But on the street, Blowers are the way to go.
With the SDCE kit no slip and boost is plentiful. A D1 is good for over 15psi and can easily push 650 rwhp with the right internals, fuel and tuning. Turbos are great for printing out pretty dyno sheets. But on the street, Blowers are the way to go. Once you change that criteria, everything is fair game.
Last edited by Wildman; Nov 18, 2004 at 09:44 PM. Reason: Did not want to start slinging hash
Originally Posted by Wildman
The question was for base P1SC or base STS.
Once you change that criteria, everything is fair game.
Once you change that criteria, everything is fair game.
All in fun btw 
Last edited by PurEvl; Nov 19, 2004 at 06:10 AM.
I'm going to go with the STS Setup for many reasons. I don't have screw with headers, and a GMMG exhaust. So that saves me like $1500 (I like the stainless headers). I don't have to worry about belt slippage or belts period.
Turbos produce way better power curves. Supercharger boost is linear. e.g. at 5000 RPM you will get 5lbs of boost. Once a turbo is spooled up it makes full boost. So at 3000 RPM I'm making for example 5lbs of boost. That's 2000 RPM sooner than the blower. So I'll be flying because the blower might be only making 3lbs at 3000 RPM... anyways...
I think if I had done headers and a GMMG, I'd definitely go for the ATI just because I wouldn't want to throw away my nice exhaust...
I've heard all these car guys talking **** about these STS kits. Even a guy down at The Dyno Shop who worked there was talking **** to me how ATI would be so much better. How STS doesn't work, and he "knows" someone with it who has nothing but problems and ungodly lag. I guess that award they got at SEMA was fake too...
I can hardly wait when I get it done I'll take it down there and make his jaw drop.
Hey PurEvl... do you have any videos of your car with the STS kit? The one dyno video you had with the ATI D1 was awesome
ATTENTION: If anyone in SoCal would like to give me a ride in their STS car let me know! I'll buy you lunch or something for your time! Any takers? I don't mind a good drive. If not I'm still going to buy it
Just it would be icing on the cake to ride in one first hand.
Turbos produce way better power curves. Supercharger boost is linear. e.g. at 5000 RPM you will get 5lbs of boost. Once a turbo is spooled up it makes full boost. So at 3000 RPM I'm making for example 5lbs of boost. That's 2000 RPM sooner than the blower. So I'll be flying because the blower might be only making 3lbs at 3000 RPM... anyways...
I think if I had done headers and a GMMG, I'd definitely go for the ATI just because I wouldn't want to throw away my nice exhaust...
I've heard all these car guys talking **** about these STS kits. Even a guy down at The Dyno Shop who worked there was talking **** to me how ATI would be so much better. How STS doesn't work, and he "knows" someone with it who has nothing but problems and ungodly lag. I guess that award they got at SEMA was fake too...
I can hardly wait when I get it done I'll take it down there and make his jaw drop.
Hey PurEvl... do you have any videos of your car with the STS kit? The one dyno video you had with the ATI D1 was awesome
ATTENTION: If anyone in SoCal would like to give me a ride in their STS car let me know! I'll buy you lunch or something for your time! Any takers? I don't mind a good drive. If not I'm still going to buy it
Just it would be icing on the cake to ride in one first hand. 
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Originally Posted by PurEvl
exactly, if he wants to see what my dyno turbo will do to his d1 I would be more then happy to if hes ever near me. And since I owned a 630+ d1 setup I know how bad he will be dusted
We can run.... give me a week or 2!
Originally Posted by NavySS
Hey PurEvl... do you have any videos of your car with the STS kit? The one dyno video you had with the ATI D1 was awesome
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Originally Posted by PurEvl
I said d1, I seen what you planning. Hell no 
Hows it coming along anyway?I should have final numbers by next week. Im just trying to decide on a stand alone or a 3 bar map wide band 02 conversion from HP.
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Originally Posted by redline.inc
It looked like the STS would take it but here come the ATI trying to take the lead. This is a good race, that is going to be decided by the state of Idaho. 
If this keeps going on I'll have to regester with different IP adresses so I can vote more!
Oh my god! You killed ATI!
You bastards!
Originally Posted by PurEvl
I will see if I can whip something up, how about a 70 to 110 run run or something?
I'm still waiting for someone to offer me a ride (I know it's only been a day)! Shoot - I offered lunch, do I have to seduce them as well?
I'm hoping a free meal will cut it though... TECH Enthusiast
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Navy SS: I might have my setup done this Sunday, but I don't think I will be able to give a ride until maybe early next month. Also, I will probably baby it, I have a stock tranny and rear end. I KNOW I can break those with my setup. Ran out of money too fast to upgrade those. 
FI is a very expensive hobby.
FI is a very expensive hobby.
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From: Katy, TX
I have a set of Dynatech 1 7/8 headers. Are you telling me I can't use them with the STS kit? Is it pipe fit problems ore is there not enough backpressure? Someone please fill me in. I was thinking about buying an upgraded kit, but I don't want to run manifolds if I don't have to. I've got some 6.0 heads that flow very well, and I don't want to stifle them with stock manifolds.
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From: Katy, TX
Originally Posted by trtturbo
you can run long tubes with the STS
) Thanks!