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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 02:23 PM
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I am trying to get around 450-500 hp to the wheels. I am looking at either a supercharger or a turbo. I am kinda thinking about the turbos a little more becasue no one around here has one that is turboed. my question is which systems are best and how much they would cost. thanks for any info.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 03:02 PM
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450-500 shouldn't be hard obtaining either way...turbo should cost more, but produce more power, and far more torque...good luck
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 04:27 PM
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I would also recomend turbo, I used to really think I wanted a supercharger kit for my camaro, but now that I've started custom fabbing my twin turbo kit there is no looking back, and I'm sure I'll like it even more soon as the car runs.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 04:35 PM
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A supersearch would get you all the info you need..
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 05:22 PM
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i vote for the turbo, i think u'll be much happier with the results. Prolly at least get to 450rwhp but id bet more. Look at the STS kits with usual bolt-ons, good exhaust setup and 5psi. 7psi w/ alky injection ud prolly get real close to 500rwhp. Just my few cents
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 07:39 PM
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supercharger.

A lot of guys on here have turbos, turbos can produce more power but for that range a blower can easliy do it
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by osuhunter07
supercharger.

A lot of guys on here have turbos, turbos can produce more power but for that range a blower can easliy do it
thats very true as well...P1SC at 6-7psi will get you 450rwhp easily or more and a D1SC at 8-10psi will get you a good bit more esp. with the right cam 500rwhp simply.Just like the one guy who just posted his D1SC results w/ the GT-2 LPE cam(fairly mild i think)...he got 531rwhp!
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 10:35 PM
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i am really considering the sts turbo system does any one know how much hp i would have with some slp headers and the sts turbo? i know that the turbo on a stock 99 camaro makes 419hp.
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I thought I saw that TByrne is having a special on both ATI supercharger kits and STS Turbo kits. Talk to a sponsor that sells both and see what the total costs would be to attain your goals.

One of the big differences I've noticed is in the torque curves. Last month's Mustang and Fast Fords had a really detailed write-up showing test results on a 4.6 liter 4-valve Cobra motor. The tests included the stock Eaton supercharger, a Kenne Bell twin screw, the ATI kit, and a Pro turbo twin kit.

Only thing different was the FI, and they plotted results at the same boost. As you'd expect, the Eaton and Kenne Bell made instant boost, the centrifugal (ATI) made better peak Hp, and the turbo blew them away in terms of the torque curve and efficiency. Making over 600 ft lbs of torque from 3200 rpm to 6400 rpm is much, much different than picking a peak HP number at high rpms.

Talk with people who sell and have done both rather than listening to the "my team is better" stuff.
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I read that LT's don't really do anything over stock. They won't help or hurt peformance with the STS setup.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 01:26 PM
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Either way, you're looking at 4-6psi max with the stock 11.1:1 compression pistons. You'd have to run water injection or some other setup to get more than that. At most your gaining 100-150hp?...if that? Think of all the other mods you could do for $3 or $4k that would have been spent on the turbos/time putting them on. Just something to think about.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 01:31 PM
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i say as long as it isn't a leaf blower duck taped to the intake you can have alot of fun with either!!!
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Smoov-E
a Pro turbo twin kit.
I'm fairly certain the turbo kit they tested was the HP Motorsports twin kit.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 01:49 PM
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I personally have a p1sc that puts down a lot of power. But on the other hand the sts kit is very nice. I just don't like the way it looks on a Camaro. It looks a hell of a lot better on the Pontiacs because of the body kit that hides most of the piping. A friend of mine just put down 687rwhp with the D1sc and passed smog the next weekend with the same setup here in the Bay Area.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 03:18 PM
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How different would 2 dyno graphs look, w/ cars producing the same peak hp, if a turbo setup was compared to a supercharger setup?
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 03:29 PM
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IMHO, I would go for a Procharger D1SC kit if I were you
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ok if i go with the sts turbo kit is there a way to set it up for 7psi and if so what would be the est hp that i would have. also i was wondering if there was any way to make it duel exhaust. that is the only thing that i dont like about the set up
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by pdanrichey
Either way, you're looking at 4-6psi max with the stock 11.1:1 compression pistons. You'd have to run water injection or some other setup to get more than that. At most your gaining 100-150hp?...if that?

The stock C/R is not 11.1 C/R. Its 10.1 and some magazines said 10.2 C/R while the LS6 motor is 10.5 C/R. The new LS2 motor is 10.9C/R. You can run 8psi easily on a stock LS1 with no problems with an intercooled system such as the ATI while u will need a water/alky injection with a STS system to run that amount of boost safely. I wouldnt pass 10psi on a stock motor because the cylinder pressure could hurt the weakest link in the motor which is the piston.
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Originally Posted by BoneSS
How different would 2 dyno graphs look, w/ cars producing the same peak hp, if a turbo setup was compared to a supercharger setup?
If any guy with STS kit did make 550rwhp i would love to compare my graph to his to see how these two kits compare.
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Originally Posted by 99WS-6T/A
i am really considering the sts turbo system does any one know how much hp i would have with some slp headers and the sts turbo? i know that the turbo on a stock 99 camaro makes 419hp.

Slp headers suck man( ), and a lot of their products are overpriced so shop around and check out the vendors to the right --->
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