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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 01:49 AM
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That's pretty interesting. I guess that shows that timing doesn't have to be on the ragged edge to make power.
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 03:05 PM
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Maybe try leaving the fuel down at 11.4 at the bottom and lean it out to 11.8 after peak torque.
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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Now cross refererence IAT's with KR. Any patterns?

Interesting info so far.
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
Now cross refererence IAT's with KR. Any patterns?

Interesting info so far.
my iat's were VERY consistant. i did exactly the same procedure before each run. i drove for over one mile at a easy 50mph(my truck cools very quickly), then stoped at exactly the same spot, hit the gtech and went. i loged with efilive every run but no IAT on there. i didn't log with mega every run but here is the IAT's on the few runs where i did log. these numbers look consistant enough to not have to factor in.


49-75 deg for run 1 << 9.5psi
49-83 deg for run 4 << 11.6psi added fuel KR still
47-82 deg for run 5 << 11.6psi pulled timing and KR went away
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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Looks like a pattern to me.
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
Looks like a pattern to me.
you are a man of few words. perhaps you could elaborate. those temps i posted are starting and ending IAT's and i dont thing 2deg diferences in the stating IAT's is enough to effect the results. what are you saying?
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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LS1Tech consensus seems to be to run an 11.0 A/F, but I have had no issues running 11.8-12.2 on a forged motor with at least 1 method of intercooling.

I'll be focusing on timing and boost also as well as methanol/intercooling more than super rich gasoline A/F to keep my motor happy.
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MelloYellow
LS1Tech consensus seems to be to run an 11.0 A/F, but I have had no issues running 11.8-12.2 on a forged motor with at least 1 method of intercooling.

I'll be focusing on timing and boost also as well as methanol/intercooling more than super rich gasoline A/F to keep my motor happy.
how much hp is there to be had with alkey injection? i know running a 50% mix of 118fuel i can make another 100hp. is there an estimated octane equlivent if you are trying to compare race fuel to pump gas/alkey?
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 07:53 PM
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I'm expecting no less than 35rwhp and 25rwtq. I'll post results in about 1-2 weeks. Could be higher. I remember MightyMouse had great results but I didn't see his before # comparison.

Looks like I'll be tuning at 11.5 to 11.8:1 when injecting Methanol, vs. 11.8 to 12.2 on gasoline. I believe it allows an additional 3-4* timing above your gasoline tune. Adds around 4 octane points to your fuel depending on Mix. I think most injection setups end up with an 80% gas 20% Meth mix.

Also have heard it can drop charge temps from 80-150* and might show as +2psi due to denser colder air.
With 100% Meth it's supposed to be the same power as 116-118 race fuel due to cooling effects.

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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 09:26 AM
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Water meth would be the best thing you could do to that truck right now.
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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 11:18 AM
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for referenceIi was able to pick up ~40rwhp with my powerdyne when I added water/alky and upped the timing. zero change in boost, just 6 degrees of timing.
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