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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 09:33 AM
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Just wondering how the MTI Stealth II cam would lend itself to a turbo setup? Is anyone here running one with FI?

edit: forgot to incl specs: 224/220 .581/.581 116 LSA
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 10:20 AM
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looks like a good choice to me.
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im gonna run my Lingenfelter GT2-3 cause you usually want more exhaust duration than intake with a FI...plus the high LSA which is a must for FI....LSA is 118.5:smile:
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still looks like a decent cam
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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hMMM Well I currently have a G5X-3 on a 112, which I know is not going to get the job done. It has a lot of exhaust overlap. I was under the impression that you wanted a reverse split cam with fi????
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all i know is that camwise you dont want some god aweful high duration cam.you want a lower intake duration,slight larger exhaust duration,lift under .600 usually, and an LSA AT LEAST 114
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
im gonna run my Lingenfelter GT2-3 cause you usually want more exhaust duration than intake with a FI...plus the high LSA which is a must for FI....LSA is 118.5:smile:
High LSA isn't a "must" for FI. You'll pick up top end power with a lower LSA and more overlap.
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i know you want at least a 114...low LSA's arent good...ie 108 race cams lol
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 09:22 PM
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112 is good if you want to run big boost on low octane...helps bleed off midrange cylinder pressure to avoid detonation
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
i know you want at least a 114...low LSA's arent good...ie 108 race cams lol
No, you don't want atleast a 114 LSA. Lower LSA means more overlap, and more overlap means more power/better high RPM VE% for a naturally aspirated motor. What does that translate into? More high RPM power, less mid range cylinder pressure for less detonation. Don't think that because you heard from somebody that 114 LSA is good for boost that it's the gospel and nothing else will work, because that isn't true at all. How do you think you can make 650 WHP on a barely 100 cubic inch honda motor? A 106 LSA cam that promotes high RPM flow for more top end power. I've seen people who lose 20-30 WHP switching from a set of stock cams (230/242, .400/.400, 106 LSA) to a set of "turbo" cams (242/230, .465/.465 114 LSA) because the wide LSA killed top end power. How did we bring the power back in? By advancing the exhaust cam and retarding the intake cam, which created more overlap.
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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and iver heard that you dont want overlap because you dont want less reversion.and im just quoting "Maximum Boost" ie the book.
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
and iver heard that you dont want overlap because you dont want less reversion.and im just quoting "Maximum Boost" ie the book.
Maximum Boost also tells you that water/alcohol injection is a poor bandaid fix for lack of fueling, that weld-el manifolds are perfectly acceptable, that you MUST have a turbo that makes a good amount of boost at 30% of max RPM's (1800 RPM's for a 6000 RPM motor, bitch please) for it to be streetable, and was also written in the early-early 90's, so I'll take that with a grain of salt
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man...maybe you should write the guy a letter....and you took some of it out of context...it says that for a street car it makes the MOST SENSE to have a car where you see boost at 1/3 of the usible rpm range.....cause you know ull see some dumbasses put like a T92 on a stock 346 because they automatically figure that bigger is always better.if you read the book cover to cover it was mostly for people who want to turbo a DD or mostly street car not some track fiend.

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Ok back on track....how do you guys think a G5X-3 112 LSA, would react to boost? That's the cam I'm currently running for NA applications. I'm really looking into the phamspeed budget kit, however my current setup is definately not optimal for boost. I'm currently running a stock block with PP Stage II LS6 59cc chamber heads, and the above mentioned g5x3 cam. CR is approx 11.2:1 RWHP is 448. I also have a complete extra block sitting at the shop that I am about to build up forged 9:1. Ideally I would like to slap the budget kit on my current setup, and run mild boost 4-5 psi, while I'm building my extra bottom end. Does anyone see a problem with this? Could I see 550 rwhp with this setup?
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 07:54 PM
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that'd be a friggin high compression on the stock sb.the heads are gonna kill ya.
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I would not run a G5X3 with a turbo, if I could change it.

I would not turbocharge an 11:1 engine.

My current supercharger cam is 236/246//114, old one was 230/236//115. My peak rwhp was close. Which cam made more power under the curve? Which one is peakier?
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
I would not run a G5X3 with a turbo, if I could change it.

I would not turbocharge an 11:1 engine.

My current supercharger cam is 236/246//114, old one was 230/236//115. My peak rwhp was close. Which cam made more power under the curve? Which one is peakier?

It would not be a long term deal. Just while I was building up the spare block that I have here. As for not running the G5X-3, why not? It's specs are very similar to your above listed 236/246. So which of your two cams made more power under the curve? Would I be able to re-use my heads? I am going with a low compression piston setup, to offset the small chambered heads.
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whats the lift and LSA on that cam?
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Old Apr 9, 2005 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
whats the lift and LSA on that cam?

SENT PM...LG doesn't want the specs floating around.
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