Adapting Whipple kit to LS1
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Adapting Whipple kit to LS1 The Vortec 4.8L, 5.3L and 6L all use the same block correct? So why can't we just adapt a supercharger kit designed for them onto a C5 or F-Body?
Here's my idea. The Whipple kit for the 4.8L, 5.3L and 6L Vortec Family is cheap and from reading the directions.. Very easy to install. 3900 Bucks complete from superchargeronline. It doesn't sit ontop or replace the existing intake manifold. It mounts to the left side of the engine.. See Below..
Whipple's kit also comes with some sort of fuel computer which could just be deleted and a Dyno tune with 42# injectors/LPE Fuel Pump could be added. I've e-mailed whipple for more info and exact mesurements of the kit so see if it will fit in the C5's engine bay. I'll keep you updated.
Here's my idea. The Whipple kit for the 4.8L, 5.3L and 6L Vortec Family is cheap and from reading the directions.. Very easy to install. 3900 Bucks complete from superchargeronline. It doesn't sit ontop or replace the existing intake manifold. It mounts to the left side of the engine.. See Below..
Whipple's kit also comes with some sort of fuel computer which could just be deleted and a Dyno tune with 42# injectors/LPE Fuel Pump could be added. I've e-mailed whipple for more info and exact mesurements of the kit so see if it will fit in the C5's engine bay. I'll keep you updated.
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First off, your thinking. Thats what I like to see.
But if you want to run the truck superchargers, all your belts will not line up. The trucks use a different balancer, and water pump.
Also the kit your speaking off, mounts up ALOT higher than all the f-body vette kits. Hell, the manifold replacement type supercharger, requires you to put a cowl hood on the vette's There isn't a whole lot of clearnace much higher than the decorative corvette fuel rail covers. The alternator is about as high as you can go under the hood of the vete's for sure.
The f-body may give you a little more room but not much because the windshield cowl covers 1/4 -1/3 of the engine. The truck supercharger is pretty long and would need to get under that wiper cowl to fit.
But if you want to run the truck superchargers, all your belts will not line up. The trucks use a different balancer, and water pump.
Also the kit your speaking off, mounts up ALOT higher than all the f-body vette kits. Hell, the manifold replacement type supercharger, requires you to put a cowl hood on the vette's There isn't a whole lot of clearnace much higher than the decorative corvette fuel rail covers. The alternator is about as high as you can go under the hood of the vete's for sure.
The f-body may give you a little more room but not much because the windshield cowl covers 1/4 -1/3 of the engine. The truck supercharger is pretty long and would need to get under that wiper cowl to fit.
Supercharger location Having the supercharger as the 1st device from the crank is the worst location. The best location for tension is the last device. Tension in the belt is progresive as it passes each load so for most power or at least adequate fiction for the supercharger drive, it needs to be behind at least one device like the water pump. Ask the ATI guys how their belts are holding up!
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Originally Posted by B3Enterprise
First off, your thinking. Thats what I like to see.
But if you want to run the truck superchargers, all your belts will not line up. The trucks use a different balancer, and water pump.
Also the kit your speaking off, mounts up ALOT higher than all the f-body vette kits. Hell, the manifold replacement type supercharger, requires you to put a cowl hood on the vette's There isn't a whole lot of clearnace much higher than the decorative corvette fuel rail covers. The alternator is about as high as you can go under the hood of the vete's for sure.
The f-body may give you a little more room but not much because the windshield cowl covers 1/4 -1/3 of the engine. The truck supercharger is pretty long and would need to get under that wiper cowl to fit.
But if you want to run the truck superchargers, all your belts will not line up. The trucks use a different balancer, and water pump.
Also the kit your speaking off, mounts up ALOT higher than all the f-body vette kits. Hell, the manifold replacement type supercharger, requires you to put a cowl hood on the vette's There isn't a whole lot of clearnace much higher than the decorative corvette fuel rail covers. The alternator is about as high as you can go under the hood of the vete's for sure.
The f-body may give you a little more room but not much because the windshield cowl covers 1/4 -1/3 of the engine. The truck supercharger is pretty long and would need to get under that wiper cowl to fit.
How much of a difference is the LQ9 Belts position to the LS1's? Could that problem be fixed by running a longer snout on the Whipple?
I have the Caravaggio blower hood coming which would give me alittle more clearance. We'll see.. I would love to attempt this but if it's not worth it.. I'll stick with the Maggie until Kenne Bell comes out with there twin screw.
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Whipple made two different setups, one use a separate belt for the blower and a add on pulley for the crank. The other/newer version uses the same belt/crank pulley. From my knowledge the only difference with the water pump it the outlet not the pulley depth but I could be wrong, I'd have to go look. I have a Silverado with a Whipple/separate pulley and I can tell you right now the mounting would be way to high. You could however probably turn the blower on it's side and make it fit that way.
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Originally Posted by METAL MAN
Whipple made two different setups, one use a separate belt for the blower and a add on pulley for the crank. The other/newer version uses the same belt/crank pulley. From my knowledge the only difference with the water pump it the outlet not the pulley depth but I could be wrong, I'd have to go look. I have a Silverado with a Whipple/separate pulley and I can tell you right now the mounting would be way to high. You could however probably turn the blower on it's side and make it fit that way.
Could you snap some high detail pics of the mounting? I'm curious to see how far the blower sits compared to the valve covers and Coil's.
EDIT - I was looking at your site. Would it be possible to make a custom adapter so i could bolt-on a Whipple 2300AX inplace of the Heaton in the Maggie kit? If so.. How much would that run me?
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Originally Posted by UtOhCop
Metal,
Could you snap some high detail pics of the mounting? I'm curious to see how far the blower sits compared to the valve covers and Coil's.
EDIT - I was looking at your site. Would it be possible to make a custom adapter so i could bolt-on a Whipple 2300AX inplace of the Heaton in the Maggie kit? If so.. How much would that run me?
Could you snap some high detail pics of the mounting? I'm curious to see how far the blower sits compared to the valve covers and Coil's.
EDIT - I was looking at your site. Would it be possible to make a custom adapter so i could bolt-on a Whipple 2300AX inplace of the Heaton in the Maggie kit? If so.. How much would that run me?
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I just took some measurements. The Alternator Pulley is 2 Inches below the highest point of the intake manifold. With the high rise hood. There should be 3-3.5 Inches of space for a blower kit. Will it be enough? We'll see
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I think it can be done. Starr performance in Australia uses a 3.3 on the monaro.
www.starrperformance.com.au
warren
www.starrperformance.com.au
warren
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Originally Posted by wildta
I think it can be done. Starr performance in Australia uses a 3.3 on the monaro.
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I think it can be done. Starr performance in Australia uses a 3.3 on the monaro.
www.starrperformance.com.au
warren
www.starrperformance.com.au
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LQ9 Kit only costs 3900.
Heavy.. Is there anyway you can take some measurements for me?
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I picked up a used Whipple kit with 2K miles on it for 3200 Today.
I also recieved info from whipple this afternoon. They have never tried to fab it up to an LS1 so this should be fun. They ofcourse said that they'll be there with any questions.
If it doesn't work.. I'll just throw it up on Ebay
I also recieved info from whipple this afternoon. They have never tried to fab it up to an LS1 so this should be fun. They ofcourse said that they'll be there with any questions.
If it doesn't work.. I'll just throw it up on Ebay
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Originally Posted by UtOhCop
I picked up a used Whipple kit with 2K miles on it for 3200 Today.
I also recieved info from whipple this afternoon. They have never tried to fab it up to an LS1 so this should be fun. They ofcourse said that they'll be there with any questions.
If it doesn't work.. I'll just throw it up on Ebay
I also recieved info from whipple this afternoon. They have never tried to fab it up to an LS1 so this should be fun. They ofcourse said that they'll be there with any questions.
If it doesn't work.. I'll just throw it up on Ebay
or the 3300ax
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...t-part-ii.html
Stick it in your engine bay and see if it will fit. Best way to find out
Stick it in your engine bay and see if it will fit. Best way to find out
Hit up wipfbody he has a whipple on top of his ls motor, there are pics on here of his build, its going in a lt camaro, i would love to do something like this but it seems like making this work would cost alot more,and be alot harder to install than a procharger
