eliminator turbo vs PTK kit
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So...if I get correctly what you're saying, as long as the BOV discharges the air prior to the MAF reading the boosted air, it won't compensate and go pig rich on a shift. It'll just think that you closed the throttle blade and properly compensate, almost like a NA situation. Or is that not correct. So, if you put the BOV preceeding the TB/MAF assembly, it should be cool correct? As long as the MAF or MAP doesn't see the air, it doesn't compensate for it. The only time you run into this condition is when the boosted air is evaced from the system post MAF. So, I guess the dumb question right now as my mind becomes numb is, the MAF on the LSx engines if in the same area as the TB right? I've never stopped to think if it proceeds or postceeds the TB.
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Originally Posted by SUPER DAVES Z
Corret me if I'm wrong, but here's a short list of the kits I know about
Blow through kits (can run a BOV)
TTi street/race
LS1 speed eliminator
STS
Phamspeed
Procharger
CAS
Incon
Draw through (run a by-pass vavle)
PTK
Q.M.P.
Vortec
Is that it?
Blow through kits (can run a BOV)
TTi street/race
LS1 speed eliminator
STS
Phamspeed
Procharger
CAS
Incon
Draw through (run a by-pass vavle)
PTK
Q.M.P.
Vortec
Is that it?
Originally Posted by sb427f-car
So wait, does the PTK kit relocate the MAF?
ya fb427 you are understanding it right.
with a little customizing im sure you could change the PTK to a blow through, if you felt you needed to.
i know alot did that with the NON_SPONSOR-kit
with a little customizing im sure you could change the PTK to a blow through, if you felt you needed to.
i know alot did that with the NON_SPONSOR-kit
Well my car will half be set up for show car, and I want that awesome sound. I think I meint have to get custom would it be harder to peg out the maf with it before or after the turbo?
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Originally Posted by smokinHawk
ya fb427 you are understanding it right.
with a little customizing im sure you could change the PTK to a blow through, if you felt you needed to.
i know alot did that with the NON_SPONSOR-kit
with a little customizing im sure you could change the PTK to a blow through, if you felt you needed to.
i know alot did that with the NON_SPONSOR-kit
I was thinking of using the hot parts anyways and saving some $$$ by doing cold side myself. The various S/C kits that bolt up use a blow through style then right? And hot parts vs. total kit wouldn't mean the added worry about relocating the MAF and extending wires (or you could ditch it and go SD). Thanks smokin'
You guys got me confused on the placement of the BOV. Does it go like this, TB-maf-bov that way all when the TB is closed the unused air will go through the maf again and then out the BOV?
Looks like this? Pic from frcefed98
Looks like this? Pic from frcefed98
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Originally Posted by HellRaiser
You guys got me confused on the placement of the BOV. Does it go like this, TB-maf-bov that way all when the TB is closed the unused air will go through the maf again and then out the BOV?
Looks like this? Pic from frcefed98
Looks like this? Pic from frcefed98
That looks like a bypass vavle HellRaiser, then again, as I've never thought about this and in relation to where the factory places the MAF (one of those things you over look
). I don't think it matters where you place the BOV or Bypass Vavle, as long as the MAF doesn't read the air that ISN'T going into the manifold. LS1 Tech Stories
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
There is no need for a twin setup for 700rwhp.I'm sure PTK's kit can hit it easilly enough with the right motor/boost combo.We built PurEvl's car and there was nothing special done to it and it pumped out 700hp from a STS on 14lbs on the stock computer.I'm sure you can hit 900hp on the stock computer.
I don''t recall saying there was a need for a Twin Setup. I like Singles too. My setup will make 1000rwhp easily (on the stock computer) and next time I get down to A&A I plan on crankn her up again. My only point was that judging from PTK's other setups and mine that they appear to have the right approach with their design criteria. I was over 700 rwhp @16 closer to 800 at the rear. A&A runs a conservative dyno, people don't even like dynoing there because when they compare it to the other 2 dynos in the area, A&A's is always lower.
Originally Posted by sb427f-car
That looks like a bypass vavle HellRaiser, then again, as I've never thought about this and in relation to where the factory places the MAF (one of those things you over look ). I don't think it matters where you place the BOV or Bypass Vavle, as long as the MAF doesn't read the air that ISN'T going into the manifold.
). I don't think it matters where you place the BOV or Bypass Vavle, as long as the MAF doesn't read the air that ISN'T going into the manifold.That is a Tial 50mm BOV. The BOV is before the MAF. If the MAF was in front of the turbo, he could not run that unit in that location. He would have to run a bypass valve that routed the air back into the intake track. That's really the only difference in a BOV and a Bypass valve, (some units like this one are made only to be a bov, but some are interchangable).
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Originally Posted by SUPER DAVES Z
That is a Tial 50mm BOV. The BOV is before the MAF. If the MAF was in front of the turbo, he could not run that unit in that location. He would have to run a bypass valve that routed the air back into the intake track. That's really the only difference in a BOV and a Bypass valve, (some units like this one are made only to be a bov, but some are interchangable).
Gotcha, just looked like a by pass from that angle.
