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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 08:57 PM
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Well it looks like it should be a 408, but I have already got a 370 so now that I have that, would some T70's lag that much as in, what would I run in the 1320 full weight with a built 370, some Twin T70's, and a 3800 stall with a good tranny.

Parish what kind of tranny you got there? How much and what is the number? Pm me please.
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 09:12 PM
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did you buy a stock stroke forged crank all ready?

the lag will be prety bad, a 408 would help but the lag will still be significant. if you want to do good at the track you will need to get it too spool on the starting line with either motor but the 408 will be more fun on the street. at the track you can spray it or get a transbrake and just hold it there till you have the boost you want.

tranny is in my sig, built 4l80e, i think Chuck charges over $3000 for one of them but for a "street" vehicle it is a great way to go.
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 11:10 PM
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parish your truck is bad ***...please show him what it takes to "reliably" make 1000rwhp. please i would love to see the pictures again. plus it will prove a point, thanks.
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 11:19 PM
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parish your truck is bad ***...please show him what it takes to "reliably" make 1000rwhp. please i would love to see the pictures again. plus it will prove a point, thanks.
thanks! with $7,000 to spend on a short block i think he has an idea what it will take. with that kind of money he might be able to do a longblock with afr heads.

really these motors are strong from the factory and dont need anything all that special to go 1000rwhp.
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 12:03 AM
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I'll say it again 408 and 61's. Reliable, 1000rwhp, minimal lag, which equals lots of torque and huge revs aren't needed.

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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 12:34 AM
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I agree with Jose. You could put 61's on the 370 too if you do already have all the components. 70's are going to be way too big. Hell, they will support ~800 whp EACH! The biggest I would go is 67's, but even that is overkill.
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 09:14 AM
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OK, I already bought a 370 and got a forged Lunati stoke stroke crank. A local friend is already started the build on it this morning, but maybe I can sell it.

Yes PArish already ahead of you, I ordered some AFR 225's 2 weeks ago, and can you pm me a number for that tranny shop, $3,000 is a lot cheaper than $5,000 from you know who

Who can recommend a good shortblock builder to build the motor? HPE, LME???

Also can they get a custom grind cam just for my setup?
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 10:28 AM
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Well, I was thinking and if I get 2 of the T70's with a smaller A/R like say .61, wouldn't I be fine on the street? I mean it's not like I am getting the .91 ones guys, wouldn't this setup be well worth over 1000+ RWHP, while still be streetable?
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 01:07 PM
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I say an LME 408 with their oiling mods, LS7 top end, and twin 61's with cast manifolds if possible. if not cast, then coated mild steel. Keep everything above the K-member and you're golden!
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Paulz2820
SHORTER stroke is more reliable there is no about it
and yes if you HAVE to buy a new forged crank then go 408
but if you wanna save 1000 or more bucks stay with the stock crank and just make 800...also if you read his post 1000rwhp and streetable are in the same sentence. like your gonna be driving around on the street with 1000hp anyways some of you just have no clue
Shorter stroke is more reliable on what basis, paul? The fact that Chevy went up to a 3.6" stroke from a 3.48" stroke for the LS1, and still made a dead reliable factory motor? Yeah, I bet Chevy would put a 4" crank in that LS7 and a 4.37" stroke in their 8.1's if long strokes magically made the motor unreliable. Go talk to any engine builder and listen to them laugh their asses off when you try and tell them more cubes and a bigger stroke isn't a good choice for the street because it will be unreliable.

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Well, I was thinking and if I get 2 of the T70's with a smaller A/R like say .61, wouldn't I be fine on the street? I mean it's not like I am getting the .91 ones guys, wouldn't this setup be well worth over 1000+ RWHP, while still be streetable?
Twin T70 .58 A/R P-trim's on a 331 inch motor. Full boost at ~5500 as you can see Having 50 more cubic inches is going to net you 500-600 RPM's quicker spool. When you're trying to run HUGE twins on the street you need inches, period. I ran T66 P-trim .68 A/R's on my last car with a 383, and even with a glide and a loose converter I wished I went for more inches.WHY did you go out and buy a stock stroke crank when every person on here told you to go 408?
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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no offense but we've been building boat motors since you were probably born. our motors are all 4" stroke and 4.6" bores. the longer the stroke the less reliable. its a fact. sorry if you can't understand that
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 03:23 PM
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I am getting smaller turbos. I got a great deal on both of them from a friend, I will just get smaller turbos Thanks guys.
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Paulz2820
no offense but we've been building boat motors since you were probably born. our motors are all 4" stroke and 4.6" bores. the longer the stroke the less reliable. its a fact. sorry if you can't understand that
Congrats, I know a lot of old timers that are so stuck in their ways that they don't believe you can't make power without a 260+ duration cam and just open the heads up as big as you want Like I said, go call up W2W, Lingenfelter, Fast Times, Kuntz, Reher-Morrison, etc, etc, and ask them what they think about the reliability of a longer stroke street engine. I'll take their word over some ls1tech allstar boat builder, but maybe that's just me.
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 05:00 PM
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wow your the perfect example of a mustang owner. i'm done with this thread...if there was a bitch slap button i'd be pressing it.....now
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 05:27 PM
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Guys everone has there own opinion, no penalty in that. I thank both of you for your advice. I am going to go with a 370, not for reliabilty, but because I aleady have it and changing the turbos gives me money instead of spending more on a new shortblock, so for me the 370 will get me the power I want. Thanks to all.
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 06:03 PM
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PM "Mightymouse" here on the boards. He's been running a 346/47?? with a single 76 I believe. I know he did like 900rw+ and has now switched turbos. Rumor around Richmond was he's crested the 1000rw mark now...











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Thanks guys.
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 06:36 PM
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you know your using that 370 cause its reliable right good luck man
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 11:32 PM
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I hope I enjoy it Maybe my next setup will be a 408 TT?? I just want my car to have over 1000 RWHP and with a 370 and smaller turbos it would be easier, thanks for all the help guys.
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