Garrett turbos for the LS1....
09-26-2002, 11:20 PM
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Garrett turbos for the LS1.... Why hasen't anyone tried these bad boys?
The Stryker Viper uses them, Hennessey uses them and I think LPE has used them.
Isn't the hard part about using a turbo the fabrication of the metal tubing which carries the air to the intake and the exhaust to the turbo and out?
The Stryker Viper uses them, Hennessey uses them and I think LPE has used them.
Isn't the hard part about using a turbo the fabrication of the metal tubing which carries the air to the intake and the exhaust to the turbo and out?
09-27-2002, 01:00 AM
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Re: Garrett turbos for the LS1.... you make it sound so easy! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />
Haven't you noticed how little room there is under an F-Body hood?
It looks like somebody upended a wheelbarrow full of hoses and tubes into the engine bay and then jumped up and down on them enough to get the hood closed (only just barely) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
there's definitely something to be said for the older cars where there was enough room to get at everything... <img border="0" alt="[kaboom]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bomb.gif" />
Haven't you noticed how little room there is under an F-Body hood?
It looks like somebody upended a wheelbarrow full of hoses and tubes into the engine bay and then jumped up and down on them enough to get the hood closed (only just barely) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
there's definitely something to be said for the older cars where there was enough room to get at everything... <img border="0" alt="[kaboom]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bomb.gif" />
09-27-2002, 05:10 AM
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Re: Garrett turbos for the LS1.... I don't know much about turbos.
Is there a maximum length the turbo can be away from the intake? I mean the piping for the clean compressed air. Or is the problem that the turbo must be close to the engine because of the exhaust gas having to go through it?
Where do the turbos go with the Incon kit?
Do you know what model the Stryker Viper uses?
Here's a pic:
http://www.supervipersystems.com/Upg...urbosfront.jpg
Is there a maximum length the turbo can be away from the intake? I mean the piping for the clean compressed air. Or is the problem that the turbo must be close to the engine because of the exhaust gas having to go through it?
Where do the turbos go with the Incon kit?
Do you know what model the Stryker Viper uses?
Here's a pic:
http://www.supervipersystems.com/Upg...urbosfront.jpg
09-27-2002, 05:32 PM
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Re: Garrett turbos for the LS1.... </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by chasgiv3:
Not sure what your getting at here.
[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Incon is out of business, correct?
Garrett is not. Incon used Garrett turbos. So, Incon really isn't out of business. Why aren't people just calling Garrett for there turbo's?
Is it all of the other parts that are needed that Garrett doesn't make?
Not sure what your getting at here.
[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Incon is out of business, correct?
Garrett is not. Incon used Garrett turbos. So, Incon really isn't out of business. Why aren't people just calling Garrett for there turbo's?
Is it all of the other parts that are needed that Garrett doesn't make?
09-28-2002, 12:00 AM
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Re: Garrett turbos for the LS1.... Allied Signal is a multi-billion dollar Fortune 500 company that is the parent company for Garrett turbos. They bought out Garrett/AirResearch years ago.
Garrett is the worlds largest supplier of aircraft, industrial, and automotive turbochargers.
Incon, just like 95% of all other automotive companies that make turbo systems, purchased these Garrett turbos either directly from Garrett or any of the major aftermarket turbocharger suppliers such as Turbonetics, Precision Turbo & Engine, etc.
Incon is out of business, thats a fact, but, Garrett has [NO] affiliation with Incon.
If you want to purchase a turbocharger, I would contact Precision Turbo & Engine (PTE). They can supply any Garrett turbo you need, and modify any of these turbos for any application, race or otherwise. BTW, PTE has been in the Turbo Buick race business for many years.
Ron,
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<small>[ September 28, 2002, 04:22 AM: Message edited by: Kimchee and Rice ]</small>
Garrett is the worlds largest supplier of aircraft, industrial, and automotive turbochargers.
Incon, just like 95% of all other automotive companies that make turbo systems, purchased these Garrett turbos either directly from Garrett or any of the major aftermarket turbocharger suppliers such as Turbonetics, Precision Turbo & Engine, etc.
Incon is out of business, thats a fact, but, Garrett has [NO] affiliation with Incon.
If you want to purchase a turbocharger, I would contact Precision Turbo & Engine (PTE). They can supply any Garrett turbo you need, and modify any of these turbos for any application, race or otherwise. BTW, PTE has been in the Turbo Buick race business for many years.
Ron,
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<small>[ September 28, 2002, 04:22 AM: Message edited by: Kimchee and Rice ]</small>
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Re: Garrett turbos for the LS1.... I have Twin Garrets on mine.
Not sure what your getting at here.
If you're an awesome fabricator and can weld stainless and aluminum. You should be able to build your own. Turbo placement, wastegate placement and intercooler placement are critical.
But if you have the skills it's not that hard.
Not sure what your getting at here.
If you're an awesome fabricator and can weld stainless and aluminum. You should be able to build your own. Turbo placement, wastegate placement and intercooler placement are critical.
But if you have the skills it's not that hard.
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Re: Garrett turbos for the LS1.... You can get the CHRA from garrett (Honeywell actually owns them). Garrett does not make compressor or exhuast housing for the gt2535 or any of the GT series ball bearing turbos. For Incons you machine a T04B compressor housing on the driver side, for passenger side it was cast specifically for the f-body (possibly mustang). For the turbine housings Incon used a modified T28 5-bolt housing. So for the kit you have actuators, CHRAs and one compressor housing and both exhuast housing that can be used with a little work. Almost everything else was custom.
CHRA's can be a little hard to get but not impossible. Most companies are charging about 3 times markup for them. The gt2535 CHRAs cost about $400 each at cost, but I have seem them selling for $1200 each. I purchased a set back in January for ~$600 each.
Gary
CHRA's can be a little hard to get but not impossible. Most companies are charging about 3 times markup for them. The gt2535 CHRAs cost about $400 each at cost, but I have seem them selling for $1200 each. I purchased a set back in January for ~$600 each.
Gary
