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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 09:41 AM
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This place has done aircraft exhaust for years, branching into automotive.
http://stainlessheaders.com
After a good conversation with the guy (Chris) I sent them a couple CAD drawings and these renderings:



Say's no problem. 1 3/4" primary to 3" merge into T4. All out of 321 stainless. Couple of weeks.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 09:50 AM
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Nice renderings. Looks really nice.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 10:49 AM
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How much is it costing you? I might do the same thing.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 02:25 PM
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nice, what software did you use for that?
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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same questions as above, how much, what kind of sofware did you use, and good job those are nice renderings
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AutoCAD for the geometry then SurfCAM for the surfaces. Seriously about a half hour total. Their regular price is $250.00 (Burn's are $320.00.) per normal merge collector (a bargain) and all they use is 321. Dont know how much for a setup like this.They want to use pics of my motor so they cut me a deal on the package. I supplied the T4 flanges. Check out their work on the web site above. Chris is a real nice guy to talk to.

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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 05:10 PM
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those are some good prices, Ill keep them in the back of my mind.

and I bet I could spend a day doing what you did in a half an hour
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 05:14 PM
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those are some good prices, Ill keep them in the back of my mind.

and I bet I could spend a day doing what you did in a half an hour
The array command is your friend. Draw one pipe, circular array and end up with four in an instant! Nothin' to it!
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i use ProE, never liked autocad to much
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Originally Posted by smokinHawk
i use ProE, never liked autocad to much
Works for me.

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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 08:01 PM
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Chris at Stainless Headers sent me this today just to clarify the design. Should be done in a few days. Looking good to me.
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Lasershop
Chris at Stainless Headers sent me this today just to clarify the design. Should be done in a few days. Looking good to me.
Now you know why I do buisness with them... At first for aviation stuff....

I have'nt bought components from cooks, stahl or burns in ages....

Their skill, QC and custom service is awesome... We have alot of talent up here... I am lucky to have places like them and QA1 a stones throw away.

Are you going with a double slip primary attachment?

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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by V8_DSM_V8again
Now you know why I do buisness with them... At first for aviation stuff....

I have'nt bought components from cooks, stahl or burns in ages....

Their skill, QC and custom service is awesome... We have alot of talent up here... I am lucky to have places like them and QA1 a stones throw away.

Are you going with a double slip primary attachment?
The part pictured is not cut to size yet but you have to appreciate the geometry going on. The rest will be their merge collector in whatever configuration they think is best. Im just along for the ride.
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Lasershop
The part pictured is not cut to size yet but you have to appreciate the geometry going on. The rest will be their merge collector in whatever configuration they think is best. Im just along for the ride.
I know that is a early photo in the production process.. Its just got one tack weld and their layout ink is still on it.. Completely normal for that stage..

Their merge collector


This next pic is from burn$$tanless....
Just shown to explain a double slip joint...



http://stainlessheaders.com/merge.htm can do a double slip too... Just no pics up of a double slip right now
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 06:31 PM
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Thats pretty slick! Id like to see pictures after its all done.

Ive used AutoCAD for 10 years. We recently switched to Solidworks where I work at and its been like a revolution in CAD. LMAO Like learning to use my left hand when Im right handed. Different but once you get the hang of it, VERY useful
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Originally Posted by Guido
Thats pretty slick! Id like to see pictures after its all done.

Ive used AutoCAD for 10 years. We recently switched to Solidworks where I work at and its been like a revolution in CAD. LMAO Like learning to use my left hand when Im right handed. Different but once you get the hang of it, VERY useful
agree...im at school, mech. eng. major and just finished up graphics II, which uses solidworks, were the first class to use it at the school...and even though its new to all of us (even the professor) everyone likes it much more than pro-e and autocad that the other classes use
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Guido
Thats pretty slick! Id like to see pictures after its all done.

Ive used AutoCAD for 10 years. We recently switched to Solidworks where I work at and its been like a revolution in CAD. LMAO Like learning to use my left hand when Im right handed. Different but once you get the hang of it, VERY useful
10 years is enough time to have seen enough idiots who couldn't CAD there way out of the crapper. I have Solidworks too. In my shop (lasercutting) the world is flat as a pancake. AutoCAD is by far the fastest software available for 2D stuff when there is little to no time. I use my Surfcam for 3D (CNC Mill) simply because it is faster also. Nothing worse that watching someone spend hours on a drawing that should have been only minutes and will usually be the deciding factor if a particular job ships that day or not. I have even seen a guy doing CAD with a trackball. What an idiot. No way you could do any kind of production with a stinking trackball.
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are all their merge collectors with .049 wall.
id think youd would want .065 for a turbo application
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by smokinHawk
are all their merge collectors with .049 wall.
id think youd would want .065 for a turbo application
Sure they would build whatever your needs are. I do know this, their history is in aircraft where every single piece of pipe is documented and every weld is a big deal with the FAA. Gotta trust their craftsmanship at 10,000 feet. Besides, .049 321 is pretty damn tough stuff.
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by smokinHawk
are all their merge collectors with .049 wall.
id think youd would want .065 for a turbo application
I have seen .049 turbo hot components for a turbocharged lycoming flat four...

IMHO Construction techniques and design have alot more to do with it than the wall thickness alone...

I am sold on double slip joints..
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