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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
check out the link in post #2.....making over 600rwhp.I know the D1 could make quite a bit more power,i guess my train of thought was more focused on the low end and getting the huge truck up and moving and can still make 600rwhp.

edit....and that hp level was at 8-9 psi.
That is the one and only roots charged lsx dyno graph I have sen over 550rwhp. Most do not even come close. As far as getting a heavy truck up and going for everyday use, then a maggie would be fun.

For strip use they should use the Centrifugal and just launch it at 3500+rpm. That way there wont be a low end boost issue
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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If anyone wants a good read about superchargers in general check the link out in my sig. It's written by people in the know and is quite informative, although it is perhaphs a few years outdated concerning centrifugal setups.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by JAMES RODRIGUEZ
No belt issue for my P1SC.

You are the exception, not the rule.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RealQuick
Heat soak will still occur (as it does with cobras and lightnings...its just a part of life). I dont think Don is arguing the ATI makes more low end grunt, rather that you shouldnt discount the fact that the ATI still makes good low and mid range grunt considering its a centrif. Of course the roota blower gives tremendous off idle tq, but those roots blowers (eaton and magnusson) are typically limited to 500-525rwhp from what i have been reading. There is a reason alot of Cobra guys are ditching the roots (most inefficient blower) to go to prochargers and Kennebells
Well, I could definitely see going from a Roots to a Twin Screw.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 07:59 PM
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Well guys, so far opinions differ. There is a $ concern too. I am over budget by a few thousand, but I dont want to put cheap crap into it and have him call me with an issue. I cant fly overseas to take care of it. I am worried about hitting his hp goal and him having issues. I wish he would go turbo instead.
Thanks for all the feedback. Hope this is going to be a go.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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Are you sure that chart is showing WHEEL HP? To the best of my knowlege, there is no way the Magnacharger or the whipple can flow enough cfm's to make 600 at the wheels. On my stock 6.0L with 15lbs of boost thru the whipple I only made 416rwhp not sae corrected.

This is probably going to be a never ending thread because there is no 1 answer. I will probably be switching to a Procharger in the future because I know the whipple is maxed.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 08:55 PM
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Their website said
"2006 Chevrolet Corvette LS2" so i would imagine that it wouldnt make any sense that those numbers werent to the wheels or corrected,and i dont magnacharger trying to hide something.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
Their website said
"2006 Chevrolet Corvette LS2" so i would imagine that it wouldnt make any sense that those numbers werent to the wheels or corrected,and i dont magnacharger trying to hide something.
I'm sure the 06 Vette could hit it due to the high compression and flow of the motor but will it hold that power through the gears? From my testing the Mag. will give a good number when cool on the dyno but as you back/back the runs the hp goes down alot more than the ATI.On the street we've seen the Mag. go from 100 degree intake temps to 240 degree intake temps while going through 3 gears(dropping 8 degree's of timing).I think it's due to the small heat exchanger under the intake. Compare that to an ATI that the intake temp ussually rises 20-40 degree's.

Either one will work.We just prefer ATI's.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 05:44 AM
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We have dyno'ed quite a few Ford Lightnings and 03-04 Cobra Mustangs. After the first run on my Mustang Chassis Dyno they are down 50 rwhp.
http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com...php?service=53
You can see them in action in this video. Bob
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 08:05 AM
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I've been in an 01 Z06 with a Maggie. The power down low is impressive. I always thought if I would mod my Escalade ESV I would go with the Magnacharger or wait for the Kenne Bell. Normal relatively spirited driving never goes above 4000 RPM. Would heat soak become an issue with normal driving? Wouldn't the Maggie be a better choice for a heavy truck where you just want an improved powerband for street driving. Sure at the track you might consider a centrifugal but I gotta believe that a Maggie feels better under 4000 RPM's. Since outright E.T. is not my goal, just better everyday feel I would be inclined to choose the Maggie, my .02.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 2001WS6Vert
I've been in an 01 Z06 with a Maggie. The power down low is impressive. I always thought if I would mod my Escalade ESV I would go with the Magnacharger or wait for the Kenne Bell. Normal relatively spirited driving never goes above 4000 RPM. Would heat soak become an issue with normal driving? Wouldn't the Maggie be a better choice for a heavy truck where you just want an improved powerband for street driving. Sure at the track you might consider a centrifugal but I gotta believe that a Maggie feels better under 4000 RPM's. Since outright E.T. is not my goal, just better everyday feel I would be inclined to choose the Maggie, my .02.
Maggie sounds like a good choice for your needs.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 11:39 AM
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For your application, from my Knowledge I would DEFINATELY use a Turbonator, You can pick one up for less than $60.00 and can Supercharge anything you have. They claim you can gain 40Hp. Just think if some chicks rolled up next you in a Blown Cobra and asked you what you had under the hood, You could look over at them and Say, "Hey baby I gots a Turbonator, wanna go for a Ride". Then you could do a small rev and listen to the wine of the Turbonator, music to there ears
Man When I called the hotline they told me that putting a Procharger or Vortech on it would be stupid, they said that the Price/Performance ratio is $5,139.95/155HP = $33.16/HP. It costs $33.16 for every one horsepower it produces. All the Turbonator has to give you to beat the Vortech supercharger in terms of it's price/performance ratio is 3 horsepower. *
Plus you can install the thing in 5 minutes and IT come with a LIFETIME WARRENTY Opposed to prochargers 1-3 year warrenty, Something to think about.
I found the link
http://www.turbonator.com/

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NAW MAN, JK get a D1 and run a Nice intercooler setup and just call it a Day, get it tuned (DYNO TIME) and have fun.
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by T/A KID
For your application, from my Knowledge I would DEFINATELY use a Turbonator, You can pick one up for less than $60.00 and can Supercharge anything you have. They claim you can gain 40Hp. Just think if some chicks rolled up next you in a Blown Cobra and asked you what you had under the hood, You could look over at them and Say, "Hey baby I gots a Turbonator, wanna go for a Ride". Then you could do a small rev and listen to the wine of the Turbonator, music to there ears
Man When I called the hotline they told me that putting a Procharger or Vortech on it would be stupid, they said that the Price/Performance ratio is $5,139.95/155HP = $33.16/HP. It costs $33.16 for every one horsepower it produces. All the Turbonator has to give you to beat the Vortech supercharger in terms of it's price/performance ratio is 3 horsepower. *
Plus you can install the thing in 5 minutes and IT come with a LIFETIME WARRENTY Opposed to prochargers 1-3 year warrenty, Something to think about.
I found the link
http://www.turbonator.com/

Hope I helped










NAW MAN, JK get a D1 and run a Nice intercooler setup and just call it a Day, get it tuned (DYNO TIME) and have fun.




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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
Their website said
"2006 Chevrolet Corvette LS2" so i would imagine that it wouldnt make any sense that those numbers werent to the wheels or corrected,and i dont magnacharger trying to hide something.
They are not hiding anything. Magnuson simply state their gains by engine HP. My A4 LS1 C5 is heavily modded with Intercooled Mag w/3.1 pulley, heads, blower cam, SW LTs + 3" exhaust, etc and I'm at 500rwhp (albeit a somewhat conservative tune).

I have been considering adding a forged 402, alky injection, 2.8 pulley w/ 8-rib setup, and the soon to be released 90mm throttle body throat adapter for the Mag. I still don't expect 600 to the wheels.

I also think the 617 HP 364ci LS2 in question is stock or very close to it...

I research Magnuson equipped C5's religiously for the latest power enhancing mods, and have NEVER seen documented proof of a 550+rwhp Mag C5 without the benefit of a shot of nitrous.

I think I'll just bide my time and wait for the Kenne Bell twin screw and set it on a forged 402 with alky and be done with it...



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