METH Users Inside..........
Originally Posted by 98Ztwentyeight
I think the reason why you guys are running straight meth
is because your systems are just not up 2 par
with a devils own system.
probably with your system you should run meth only.
is because your systems are just not up 2 par
with a devils own system.
probably with your system you should run meth only.
Last edited by rotweiler-ws6; Feb 10, 2006 at 04:24 PM.
Originally Posted by eviltwins
I run 100% sunoco methanol
4 gallon RCI tank in the trunk, how much I fill it depends on how much I'm driving it hard. I drive this car (Eclipse GSX) to work every day so a lot of times it's a sedate drive in traffic with zero boost, but some days I'm not coming home till 1 or 2 from the office and I'm going WOT a bit more than at rush hour. I can get a lot of tankfulls out of it even when I'm on it a lot though.
Rocket: I think you're missing part of the point of adding the meth. When your fuel trims are fine and you just need to combat detonation you pull out fuel enrichment from your gasoline injectors, and substitute that fueling with the methanol. Razor/Julio has been building kits for quite a while and recommends 100% meth for any application, I'll take his word over yours, sorry.
4 gallon RCI tank in the trunk, how much I fill it depends on how much I'm driving it hard. I drive this car (Eclipse GSX) to work every day so a lot of times it's a sedate drive in traffic with zero boost, but some days I'm not coming home till 1 or 2 from the office and I'm going WOT a bit more than at rush hour. I can get a lot of tankfulls out of it even when I'm on it a lot though.
Rocket: I think you're missing part of the point of adding the meth. When your fuel trims are fine and you just need to combat detonation you pull out fuel enrichment from your gasoline injectors, and substitute that fueling with the methanol. Razor/Julio has been building kits for quite a while and recommends 100% meth for any application, I'll take his word over yours, sorry.
at a great price and his company is very well known through out
the midwest. I would take his advise over razor/julio anyday
all of the local grandnational guys know his product and respect
his opinions
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Last edited by smokinHawk; Feb 13, 2006 at 09:26 AM. Reason: NON SPOSER LINK
Ignorant
Originally Posted by Steel Chicken
Wow, call me ignorant, but its hard to take anyone seriously on a semi-difficult subject such as chemistry, phase changes and detonation when their spelling skills are so poor.
98z... weather you know it or not.. your posting sounds like you are a newb and you just got some sort of a deal on the devils alky kit.
this is the way i think about it.
gasoline vs water.. gasoline better at making hp... so i use gasoline
methanol vs. water.. methanol better at making hp.. so i use methanol
methanol vs. gasoline.. methanol is better at making hp... so i spray A LOT of METH
sooner you show me a top alcohol car that puts down a better mph on water only.. or even by adding water.... i will become interested in these types of posts.
this is the way i think about it.
gasoline vs water.. gasoline better at making hp... so i use gasoline
methanol vs. water.. methanol better at making hp.. so i use methanol
methanol vs. gasoline.. methanol is better at making hp... so i spray A LOT of METH
sooner you show me a top alcohol car that puts down a better mph on water only.. or even by adding water.... i will become interested in these types of posts.
oh yea i forgot one thing.
the companies that want you to add water are avoiding a lawsuit by not suggesting you put a fuel in a container not legal to hold fuel. you have to cut it by at least 25% to have meth not considered a fuel.. or something like that.
the companies that want you to add water are avoiding a lawsuit by not suggesting you put a fuel in a container not legal to hold fuel. you have to cut it by at least 25% to have meth not considered a fuel.. or something like that.
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Originally Posted by 618HAWK
Few questions for the methanol users.
What ratio mix are you running, water to meth.......
How large of tank do you have and how long dose it last.....
I see most makers sell a small reservoir, less than a gallon how often are you refilling, with a size like this. Vs using the windshield fluid reservoir.
At what point-psi are you injecting.
.............
What ratio mix are you running, water to meth.......
How large of tank do you have and how long dose it last.....
I see most makers sell a small reservoir, less than a gallon how often are you refilling, with a size like this. Vs using the windshield fluid reservoir.
At what point-psi are you injecting.
.............
I thought you meant meth meth. I don't cut it at all 
Nate
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I dont have any deals, I don't do business that way. If you like my stuff tell others if you don't tell others. Thats all i ask.
I see where you coming from.
Here is my stand point. Which is going to pull more heat out of the air
water or alky?
A properly setup alky system should pull 50degs of heat out of the air/ intake temps. By the time the alky/water mix reaches the combustion chamber, the mist mixture is fully vaporized into steam. When this happens the water will absorb tremendous amount of heat from the combustion process of the engine. Only about 20% of the orginal mist should make it this far. The rest of it should have already absorbed heat.
Water in the system is not going to add more power by itself. It will allow for cooler AIT values and allow for more boost, more timing, and more power because the air ariving in the engine is cooler.
Why would i sit around and try to talk you into something that would make you slower? I base this off of all the research I have done. I have a 72 olds with a 508 olds running a F-2 Blower that running simlar times with you. I have tried 100 meth 50/50 and all sorts of home brew xcelyen tulene (sp) All i ask is just try. evey car is differnt and your Might run better as you have it now. But if runs better with a cheaper mixture then you can't complain. What do i have to gain by running around and giving bad advise and making people run slower? But if i can make you run faster with someone elses system than they could get you to run with there own stuff then I did good for the day.
I see where you coming from.
Here is my stand point. Which is going to pull more heat out of the air
water or alky?
A properly setup alky system should pull 50degs of heat out of the air/ intake temps. By the time the alky/water mix reaches the combustion chamber, the mist mixture is fully vaporized into steam. When this happens the water will absorb tremendous amount of heat from the combustion process of the engine. Only about 20% of the orginal mist should make it this far. The rest of it should have already absorbed heat.
Water in the system is not going to add more power by itself. It will allow for cooler AIT values and allow for more boost, more timing, and more power because the air ariving in the engine is cooler.
Why would i sit around and try to talk you into something that would make you slower? I base this off of all the research I have done. I have a 72 olds with a 508 olds running a F-2 Blower that running simlar times with you. I have tried 100 meth 50/50 and all sorts of home brew xcelyen tulene (sp) All i ask is just try. evey car is differnt and your Might run better as you have it now. But if runs better with a cheaper mixture then you can't complain. What do i have to gain by running around and giving bad advise and making people run slower? But if i can make you run faster with someone elses system than they could get you to run with there own stuff then I did good for the day.
Originally Posted by MIGHTYMOUSE
98z... weather you know it or not.. your posting sounds like you are a newb and you just got some sort of a deal on the devils alky kit.
this is the way i think about it.
gasoline vs water.. gasoline better at making hp... so i use gasoline
methanol vs. water.. methanol better at making hp.. so i use methanol
methanol vs. gasoline.. methanol is better at making hp... so i spray A LOT of METH
sooner you show me a top alcohol car that puts down a better mph on water only.. or even by adding water.... i will become interested in these types of posts.
this is the way i think about it.
gasoline vs water.. gasoline better at making hp... so i use gasoline
methanol vs. water.. methanol better at making hp.. so i use methanol
methanol vs. gasoline.. methanol is better at making hp... so i spray A LOT of METH
sooner you show me a top alcohol car that puts down a better mph on water only.. or even by adding water.... i will become interested in these types of posts.
strait meth here, i have the alkey control kit. i start spraying at about 6psi and run two good size nozzles with the gain turned all the way up.
on pump gas i can run 11psi max. with the meth i can run it up to 16psi before i see knock. thats about 200rwhp
. on the dyno i got up to ~22psi with no knock and over 1000rwhp.
i have a 4 gallon fuel cell, i go thru several tanks of fuel before i add ~1 gallon of meth.
on pump gas i can run 11psi max. with the meth i can run it up to 16psi before i see knock. thats about 200rwhp
. on the dyno i got up to ~22psi with no knock and over 1000rwhp.i have a 4 gallon fuel cell, i go thru several tanks of fuel before i add ~1 gallon of meth.
Very Interesting...
Seems like most people that have ran Meth for a while are running 100% Meth.. People like Mighy and Parish8 are well known and have gobs of power..
Looks like I'll need to hit the Meth spray with confedence... I have not hit mine as yet.
Clint
Seems like most people that have ran Meth for a while are running 100% Meth.. People like Mighy and Parish8 are well known and have gobs of power..
Looks like I'll need to hit the Meth spray with confedence... I have not hit mine as yet.
Clint
i use meth instead of race gas..
i have no idea / dont care if any mix of meth/water etc. will work better to bring down intake temps or not.. i bought the correct intercooler for my application.
i have no idea / dont care if any mix of meth/water etc. will work better to bring down intake temps or not.. i bought the correct intercooler for my application.
newbee
Originally Posted by MIGHTYMOUSE
98z... weather you know it or not.. your posting sounds like you are a newb and you just got some sort of a deal on the devils alky kit.
this is the way i think about it.
gasoline vs water.. gasoline better at making hp... so i use gasoline
methanol vs. water.. methanol better at making hp.. so i use methanol
methanol vs. gasoline.. methanol is better at making hp... so i spray A LOT of METH
sooner you show me a top alcohol car that puts down a better mph on water only.. or even by adding water.... i will become interested in these types of posts.
this is the way i think about it.
gasoline vs water.. gasoline better at making hp... so i use gasoline
methanol vs. water.. methanol better at making hp.. so i use methanol
methanol vs. gasoline.. methanol is better at making hp... so i spray A LOT of METH
sooner you show me a top alcohol car that puts down a better mph on water only.. or even by adding water.... i will become interested in these types of posts.
He makes a great product and people in the midwest know of
his product and are happy with it.
but your right on one thing
I am a newbeeeeee especially to the internet. but not too drag racing...
I wrenched for a living for many years 10 of which I spent at the dealer.
and I didnt have time to waste on here and accumulate the mount of
posts that you have. Alot people are not trying to make the power
you are making and they are looking for a system for their everyday driver.
Alot of people have gone one in life and gave up on being the fastest.
Your definately not the fastest.
and your insight on this subject has no more importance than anyone else that posts here.
you do have a nice car though!
except for that bird on your hood. Usually when my kid draws something
I hang it on the fridge.
Last edited by 98Ztwentyeight; Feb 12, 2006 at 11:07 PM.
i was not trying to crack on you hoss.. im just trying to help you out.. re read your posts.
i KNOW you wouldn't pull that smack talk junk face to face so i'll ignore it for now.
-my bird is the heat
http://www.fastrides.com/photos/z-ra.../original.aspx
i KNOW you wouldn't pull that smack talk junk face to face so i'll ignore it for now.
-my bird is the heat
http://www.fastrides.com/photos/z-ra.../original.aspx
Originally Posted by MIGHTYMOUSE
i was not trying to crack on you hoss.. im just trying to help you out.. re read your posts.
i KNOW you wouldn't pull that smack talk junk face to face so i'll ignore it for now.
-my bird is the heat
http://www.fastrides.com/photos/z-ra.../original.aspx
i KNOW you wouldn't pull that smack talk junk face to face so i'll ignore it for now.
-my bird is the heat
http://www.fastrides.com/photos/z-ra.../original.aspx
and sometimes things do look better in person!
I saw a guys car on ebay and when I saw it in person
it looked alot better!
some of my friends call me a hoss!
its a wonder I even fit in a fbody.
I will have to get some pics of my camaro up here so you can have
a fair stab at my new toy of the year. I cut the out the whole front
air damn out to get some air flowing through the intercooler. I think
I over did it abit but you can start there since I took a cheap shot
at your kids drawing.
Last edited by 98Ztwentyeight; Feb 13, 2006 at 01:46 PM.
Originally Posted by cablebandit
car in the background looks really nice...guy in front looks like an easy target for a .357 
tempting me with money when i had a baby on the way. hes the one that needs to be shot. i had 3 years wound up into that car.
after i get done playing with my ls1 im going back to mopars
there is no replacement for the sound of a big block mopar! unless its a turbo..
...... Jerry you always got jokes......... Straight meth here.
Originally Posted by cablebandit
car in the background looks really nice...guy in front looks like an easy target for a .357
