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Old May 17, 2006 | 01:59 AM
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Alot of people use the Z06 cam in their FI setup. I will be using it in mine.
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Old May 17, 2006 | 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 2MuchRiceMakesMeSick
Alot of people use the Z06 cam in their FI setup. I will be using it in mine.
do i smell sarcasm...hmm loljk yea im goin either LS6 "stock" stuff or just goin for the lingenfelter GT2-3 or whatever it is.. LONGRANGE had an sts turbo setup with a Lingenfelter cam and it made INSANE torque for the rest of the mods he had done at the time...i beleive it was somewhere near 550rwhp and 623rwtq?? with stock motor/stock 6.0L heads/sts gt67 upgrade/fuel system and TUNE...

im sure i missed some other stuff but lets jus say it was impressive for what he had in his sig'
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Old May 17, 2006 | 09:42 AM
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I'm using a double roller, not that the stock chain isnt good enough, I just cant stand how loose they are.
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Old May 17, 2006 | 10:57 AM
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will using a smaller cam like the 02 Z06 cam quiet down engine bay valvetrain noise? (ie rocker arm noise) i believe i got yella terra rocker arms are certain rocker arms noisier than others?

mine is like 222/218 560/560 116

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Old May 18, 2006 | 01:10 AM
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Well fellas I should be making the purchase of the cam tomm., If there is anything else I need to know...shoot me any other info...Thanks again for all the comments...
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Old May 18, 2006 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by sebaSS99
Don't mean to hi-jack your thread or anything, but I was also thinking about adding a small blower cam (LPE GT2-3) into my nearly 100K mile car but was concerned about longevity of the engine. How much RWHP would I gain and would I have to upgrade the valvetrain as well (springs, pushrods, lifters)?




P.S. I running a ATI P1SC w/7 lbs. of boost on a bone-stock engine.

When I bought mine from Lingenfelter I got it with LS6 springs. That's it as far as valvetrain upgrades. But I also don't have 100,000 miles either, only 27,000. I asked Lingenfelter about it and they said it should be good up to 6300 RPM. We'll see if I keep the GT2-3 after my turbo though. I hear reverse split is the way to go in that scenario...
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Old May 18, 2006 | 07:12 AM
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On Thunders site, it says the cam has a smaller base circle, which means you should need a .050 longer pushrod....

LS6 Camshaft - 204/218 .551/.541 117.5 LSA Please note that this cam has approximately a 0.050" smaller base circle than a stock LS1 camshaft. This smaller base circle will require longer pushrods for applications with stock length valves and no milling for the head surface.
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Old May 18, 2006 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Country Boy
On Thunders site, it says the cam has a smaller base circle, which means you should need a .050 longer pushrod....

LS6 Camshaft - 204/218 .551/.541 117.5 LSA Please note that this cam has approximately a 0.050" smaller base circle than a stock LS1 camshaft. This smaller base circle will require longer pushrods for applications with stock length valves and no milling for the head surface.
Tons of people have used the stock pushrods with not problems..

MECHAM, valvetrain is just as quiet as stock, only thing I can hear on mine is a little forged piston rattle and the injectors
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Old May 21, 2006 | 02:01 PM
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Hey everyone, just a queston. If you went with the Z06 cam, but upgraded the rocker arms to a higher ratio, would that not make the cam more halthy? For instance, on a 406 (400 small block 00.30 over) the cam was rated for 1.5 rockers, but it was common knowledge if you got 1.6 or 1.7s it would increase the size of the cam. I believe stock rockers are 1.7, so he mentioned he has yellow aftermarkets. If they have a bigger ratio, would the cam size increase by more? For instance, .551 lift would go up to around .563 if I am right, and the duration would go up a little too.
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Originally Posted by Dave D
Hey everyone, just a queston. If you went with the Z06 cam, but upgraded the rocker arms to a higher ratio, would that not make the cam more halthy? For instance, on a 406 (400 small block 00.30 over) the cam was rated for 1.5 rockers, but it was common knowledge if you got 1.6 or 1.7s it would increase the size of the cam. I believe stock rockers are 1.7, so he mentioned he has yellow aftermarkets. If they have a bigger ratio, would the cam size increase by more? For instance, .551 lift would go up to around .563 if I am right, and the duration would go up a little too.

I would like to know some more about this to...anyone??
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Im sure someone has done an aftermarket rocker that changes the cams specs before...Anyone???
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Old May 29, 2006 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave D
Hey everyone, just a queston. If you went with the Z06 cam, but upgraded the rocker arms to a higher ratio, would that not make the cam more halthy? For instance, on a 406 (400 small block 00.30 over) the cam was rated for 1.5 rockers, but it was common knowledge if you got 1.6 or 1.7s it would increase the size of the cam. I believe stock rockers are 1.7, so he mentioned he has yellow aftermarkets. If they have a bigger ratio, would the cam size increase by more? For instance, .551 lift would go up to around .563 if I am right, and the duration would go up a little too.
Any time you increase rocker arm ratio you increase lift and duration. I know on a traditional small block you again about .030 lift from switching 1.5's to 1.6 ratio. Should be about the same for an LS1 (1.7 to 1.8). You also pick up a couple degrees of duration. It can be a good way to pick up a little extra power without hurting driveability.
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Originally Posted by Andy Hoffman
Any time you increase rocker arm ratio you increase lift and duration. I know on a traditional small block you again about .030 lift from switching 1.5's to 1.6 ratio. Should be about the same for an LS1 (1.7 to 1.8). You also pick up a couple degrees of duration. It can be a good way to pick up a little extra power without hurting driveability.
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Incorrect, although only slightly. Total duration of the lobe will never change unless you regrind the cam. When you change the rocker arm ratio you will affect duration at a given lift point, but the open and close valve events will still be the same.
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Old May 30, 2006 | 11:05 AM
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question for you all , i found a ls6 cam from gm performance but the specs are opposite of what this thread started with
218 intake 204 exhaust @.050 550/550 117.5 lsa which cam is the correct ls6 cam????
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I believe that is the 01' Z06 Cam. The 02' - 04's is the cam Im dealing with, that carry the specs posted in my first post. Correct me if Im wrong but I think that is right...
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Originally Posted by 96 Comp T/A
Incorrect, although only slightly. Total duration of the lobe will never change unless you regrind the cam. When you change the rocker arm ratio you will affect duration at a given lift point, but the open and close valve events will still be the same.
duration at .050 advertised lift will increase
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Originally Posted by Country Boy
On Thunders site, it says the cam has a smaller base circle, which means you should need a .050 longer pushrod....

LS6 Camshaft - 204/218 .551/.541 117.5 LSA Please note that this cam has approximately a 0.050" smaller base circle than a stock LS1 camshaft. This smaller base circle will require longer pushrods for applications with stock length valves and no milling for the head surface.
But remember that if the base circle is .050" smaller, the distance from rocker to the "backside" (not the lobe) of the cam is half that (.025").

Not a considerable amount with a hydraulic cam.
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Old May 30, 2006 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by HILL_SS
I believe that is the 01' Z06 Cam. The 02' - 04's is the cam Im dealing with, that carry the specs posted in my first post. Correct me if Im wrong but I think that is right...
i dont know if your right or not, thats why im asking, summit racing has a gm performance ls6 cam - 01-04 with specs i gave on previous post. just like you i would like clarification before i buy the cam. if anyone knows for sure what the correct specs are i would like an answer. thanks
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i just went to gm performance on line and looked up a 2002 ls6 cam and its specs are 204 intake 218 exhaust @.050 550/550 117.5 lsa -- sorry about the confusion - summit must have it printed backwards. my bad
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