STS Dyno #'s
17* is low. Didn't the tuner change it from where I set it?
I put it at 17* so you would be safe till you got to the tuner.
I run 20* - 23*
I put it at 17* so you would be safe till you got to the tuner.
I run 20* - 23*
Last edited by Ed Blown Vert; Jun 15, 2006 at 03:27 PM.
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Originally Posted by Ed Blown Vert
17* is low. Didn't the tuner change it from where I set it?
I put it at 17* so you would be safe till you got to the tuner.
I run 20* - 23*
I put it at 17* so you would be safe till you got to the tuner.
I run 20* - 23*
Teching In
Joined: Nov 2005
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From: San Diego, CA (paradise)
Yo Jon,
Hmmm, i was pretty close on what I said ? Does that mean I win ?
J/K
Anyway, gimmie a call. I don't think kushan would have left the timing that low unless there was a reason for it. At, that boost and no intercooler the IAT might have been getting up there. I'm sure I can talk to him and figure out what he did or didn't do. Did you get the hood on yet ?
And another thing - I have been seeing this and it's why I told you the numbers I told you. The Dyno Kushan is using is an Eddi-current load dyno. Much more accuate than an inertia dyno but the numbers are always much lower. The Dyno doesn't lie. If you want to see the numbers you were talking about, take it over to the Dynoshop in east county and put it on the dynojet. Don't change anything, but watch how much the numbers change. The real test is how the car feels and how it runs. Take it over to Barona and rip through the gears a few times.
Anyway, gimmie a call yo.
Hmmm, i was pretty close on what I said ? Does that mean I win ?
J/K
Anyway, gimmie a call. I don't think kushan would have left the timing that low unless there was a reason for it. At, that boost and no intercooler the IAT might have been getting up there. I'm sure I can talk to him and figure out what he did or didn't do. Did you get the hood on yet ?
And another thing - I have been seeing this and it's why I told you the numbers I told you. The Dyno Kushan is using is an Eddi-current load dyno. Much more accuate than an inertia dyno but the numbers are always much lower. The Dyno doesn't lie. If you want to see the numbers you were talking about, take it over to the Dynoshop in east county and put it on the dynojet. Don't change anything, but watch how much the numbers change. The real test is how the car feels and how it runs. Take it over to Barona and rip through the gears a few times.
Anyway, gimmie a call yo.
Shoot yeah, You can put another 5 degrees of timing in and gain that 40 or so rwhp you're looking for! That makes a lot more sense. I would definitely recommend a different turbo, and an intercooler and pump the boost up. You've got the motor to handle it, might as well utilize the extra boost. Still a relatively good graph, I figured it would be jumping all over the place, kind of seems to stop gaining significantly before 5k though, not sure if that's normal for the LS1.
Originally Posted by longrange4u
cant 76 an STS with a 346... I dont think its fuel either... I think its the low compression engine, heads (even lower compression).... I would even say 60# injectors... get a walbro 255... intercooler... get your 60 turbo reworked to a 67 or 70 (Dont remember how big you can go) and crank the boost up to 15lbs...
I think you could do 15 lbs on 93 octane with a 67 (8.6:1 CR) and see 650-700 RWHP... But I am no expert.
I think you could do 15 lbs on 93 octane with a 67 (8.6:1 CR) and see 650-700 RWHP... But I am no expert.
Launching!
Joined: Feb 2005
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From: Woodlands,TX
I think you need someone to look at your entire set up. Getting a Turbo to work the way it should requires several things; A/F Ratio which means dyno time and tuning time to adjust Fuel Maps. Your entire system of piping and connections needs to be checked for leaks; Injector size; fuel pressure; plug gap and heat range of plugs; remember the cylinder pressure is going to be higher, hotter, requiring colder plugs and a gap that the flame will jump across under pressure. Make sure ignition is not breaking down; battery charged to max. Intake and exhaust not being squeezed down and restricting air flow. Really need to take it to a shop that has a great deal of experience on Boosted applications.
I had a 306 small block Ford; T-56 turbo; air to air intercooler; 42 lb.injectors; aeromotive 1000 fuel pump; methonal injection and 93 octane gas that made 540 RWHP and 560flbtrq @ 14 psi. Stock Block and rotating assembly. It ran great until stock bottom end had issues.
You need at least an evaluation and suggestions from someone who does this for a living. I can suggest Conley's Performance Plus. It is 4.5 miles east of I-45 on the North Side of 1960. Lawrence Conley, the onwer, who has been building and tuning Turbo cars for 18 years can give you a quick evaluation. Call or go by.
281-540-3278. Good Luck. Once you get that Turbo spooling you will never go any other way.
RDW
I had a 306 small block Ford; T-56 turbo; air to air intercooler; 42 lb.injectors; aeromotive 1000 fuel pump; methonal injection and 93 octane gas that made 540 RWHP and 560flbtrq @ 14 psi. Stock Block and rotating assembly. It ran great until stock bottom end had issues.
You need at least an evaluation and suggestions from someone who does this for a living. I can suggest Conley's Performance Plus. It is 4.5 miles east of I-45 on the North Side of 1960. Lawrence Conley, the onwer, who has been building and tuning Turbo cars for 18 years can give you a quick evaluation. Call or go by.
281-540-3278. Good Luck. Once you get that Turbo spooling you will never go any other way.
RDW
Was that your black Camaro at excelsior? I was the Firehawk owner. my car should be finished tomorrow (cam/injectors) and after Kushan retunes it I would be willing to go over to the dynoshop with you to see what the actual difference in numbers is between the two types of dyno's. If you're interested P.M. me.
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