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Originally Posted by elky489
Well you still need more then 520 or so you used to have to run 129 mph...You made 547 with a stick so with a t400 and a big stall your going to loose like 20 to 25 whp from your stick....Again your going to need 600 plus to run 129 mph at near 3600lbs.....So going back threw your other post when asking guys how much boost you could up it to on borrowed time ,i would say you are more then 8psi and more then 525whp but thats just my opinion...Im thinking 12psi and 600 plus whp....
So can rick at synergy....he did the speed density tune. He said even if Tony upped it he would go wayyyy slower because anything above the set psi he dumps fuel and pulls timing in case something goes wrong and it boosts real high.
I understand that but it doesnt mean he didnt take the car back to rick before the race sean to get it tuned for 12psi....He had been talking about doing that and im not a firm believer in dyno numbers to et but i will say dyno numbers and wieght ad up to mph at the track....And 129 mph takes more then the 500 to 520 whp he HAD with his old setup...This is all im saying...either way great runs but lets not b.s and give people the wrong idea.So im calling alittle b.s on 8psi due to the 129 mph trap speed in a 3600 lbs car....now 620 to 640 whp will get him his 129 to 130 mph trap speed and by his numbers him saying 25 hp per 1 psi thatputs him right there with his 12 psi.....
Originally Posted by elky489
I understand that but it doesnt mean he didnt take the car back to rick before the race sean to get it tuned for 12psi....He had been talking about doing that and im not a firm believer in dyno numbers to et but i will say dyno numbers and wieght ad up to mph at the track....And 129 mph takes more then the 500 to 520 whp he HAD with his old setup...This is all im saying...either way great runs but lets not b.s and give people the wrong idea.So im calling alittle b.s on 8psi due to the 129 mph trap speed in a 3600 lbs car....now 620 to 640 whp will get him his 129 to 130 mph trap speed and by his numbers him saying 25 hp per 1 psi thatputs him right there with his 12 psi.....
I'm sure Tony will take you for a ride and you can peep his boost guage and boost controller.620-640 though a th400 and 9"
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And if you want to bet **** bring the car out and i will bring mine out motor to boost....Otherwise im not betting on anything.All i know is my mph numbers ad upto my wieght and hp numbers....But his dont....
Im done
o yea nice t brake a studder box launches tony looked good.
Im done
o yea nice t brake a studder box launches tony looked good.
Just cause something put down a dyno # doesnt mean its making the same on the track.... Alot of turbo cars I tune dont load as hard or come on the boost as hard on the dyno as they do on the street...its often hard to get cars spooled on the dyno depending on the setup...
I've had cars make 10 psi on the dyno and immediately make 12-14 on the street soon as they come off with no changes....theres no dyno at the track so no reason to criticize as we all know Tony doesnt know much about cars or lugnuts.
Btw: It DOES take 600-620 rwhp in that car @ 3600 lbs to run 129 mph... so regardless of if you dyno 300 rwhp or 550 rwhp, the car made 600 rwhp at least to run that speed. You will be buying a shortblock in the next couple months, have fun with it till then.
I've had cars make 10 psi on the dyno and immediately make 12-14 on the street soon as they come off with no changes....theres no dyno at the track so no reason to criticize as we all know Tony doesnt know much about cars or lugnuts.
Btw: It DOES take 600-620 rwhp in that car @ 3600 lbs to run 129 mph... so regardless of if you dyno 300 rwhp or 550 rwhp, the car made 600 rwhp at least to run that speed. You will be buying a shortblock in the next couple months, have fun with it till then.
Originally Posted by stang90gt50
You will be buying a shortblock in the next couple months, have fun with it till then.
still going strong! by the way i went 126 doing an 11.6 with my 6 speed 4 months ago was i on 12 pounds then ???????NO!! i gained 2 mile per hour with the th400! do the math thanks good by ....and if you really want to know call rick at synergy your self....we got the meth working and turned up my timming!! remember i was only on 12 degress of timeing ! now im on 16* 4 degress on a turbo car is a huge differnence! and its 128 not 129 also 3500 not 3600 case closed tony for the win 
Originally Posted by elky489
And if you want to bet **** bring the car out and i will bring mine out motor to boost....Otherwise im not betting on anything.All i know is my mph numbers ad upto my wieght and hp numbers....But his dont....
Im done
o yea nice t brake a studder box launches tony looked good.
Im done
o yea nice t brake a studder box launches tony looked good.
http://www.race-cars.net/calculators/et_calculator.html
It says my car should have 389whp
My car probably makes 330---350whp. All it had was a lid and headers Do you think I have 390 whp?????? NO.Go hp to trap speed debate!!!!!!
Originally Posted by ninetres
My car trapped 116 and weighs ~3200....sooooo here is your calculator you posted on FSR in a recent argument:
http://www.race-cars.net/calculators/et_calculator.html
It says my car should have 389whp My car probably makes 330---350whp. All it had was a lid and headers Do you think I have 390 whp?????? NO.
Go hp to trap speed debate!!!!!!
http://www.race-cars.net/calculators/et_calculator.html
It says my car should have 389whp
My car probably makes 330---350whp. All it had was a lid and headers Do you think I have 390 whp?????? NO.Go hp to trap speed debate!!!!!!
those calculators are a guest-a-met calculation doesnt mean there correct!
just did the calculation and this looks good to me with 4 degrees more then i used to have!!
Rear Wheel Horsepower
Input the Weight and 1/4 mile Trap speed of your vehicle.
Our Calculator will generate its rear wheel horsepower.
Vehicle Weight
In Pounds
3500
1/4 Mile
Trap Speed
in MPH
128
Your Rear Wheel
Horsepower
is: 572.86
make sence to me!
Rear Wheel Horsepower
Input the Weight and 1/4 mile Trap speed of your vehicle.
Our Calculator will generate its rear wheel horsepower.
Vehicle Weight
In Pounds
3500
1/4 Mile
Trap Speed
in MPH
128
Your Rear Wheel
Horsepower
is: 572.86
make sence to me!
I dyno'd 425 RWHP uncorrected @ 16psi on a mustang dyno and ran a best trap of 126mph, took me 16psi to do it (5000' DA and mid 90's temps at 11pm 
)
Dyno's don't tell the story at all with a th400. I've never weighed the car but it hasn't gotten lighter since it was stock so I'm guessing 3800 give or take 50 with me in it, th400, 9", iron block, etc. Doing the simple HP calculation that give me 595 rwhp based on my weight and trap speed.
For as horrible as the time sounds for the amount of boost, everyone runs slow in this weather. T76 stock motor 15psi, 11.1 @ 124, 383 LT1 14psi D1SC 11.0 @ 127. Come on cooler weather!
I'm jealous of you tony, I want my 130mph trap so bad (and my 10 sec pass).
)Dyno's don't tell the story at all with a th400. I've never weighed the car but it hasn't gotten lighter since it was stock so I'm guessing 3800 give or take 50 with me in it, th400, 9", iron block, etc. Doing the simple HP calculation that give me 595 rwhp based on my weight and trap speed.
For as horrible as the time sounds for the amount of boost, everyone runs slow in this weather. T76 stock motor 15psi, 11.1 @ 124, 383 LT1 14psi D1SC 11.0 @ 127. Come on cooler weather!
I'm jealous of you tony, I want my 130mph trap so bad (and my 10 sec pass).
Originally Posted by TondSS
that is what i was told about 5 months ago still going strong! by the way i went 126 doing an 11.6 with my 6 speed 4 months ago was i on 12 pounds then ???????NO!! i gained 2 mile per hour with the th400! do the math thanks good by ....and if you really want to know call rick at synergy your self....we got the meth working and turned up my timming!! remember i was only on 12 degress of timeing ! now im on 16* 4 degress on a turbo car is a huge differnence! and its 128 not 129 also 3500 not 3600 case closed tony for the win
still going strong! by the way i went 126 doing an 11.6 with my 6 speed 4 months ago was i on 12 pounds then ???????NO!! i gained 2 mile per hour with the th400! do the math thanks good by ....and if you really want to know call rick at synergy your self....we got the meth working and turned up my timming!! remember i was only on 12 degress of timeing ! now im on 16* 4 degress on a turbo car is a huge differnence! and its 128 not 129 also 3500 not 3600 case closed tony for the win
Originally Posted by ninetres
My car trapped 116 and weighs ~3200....sooooo here is your calculator you posted on FSR in a recent argument:
http://www.race-cars.net/calculators/et_calculator.html
It says my car should have 389whp My car probably makes 330---350whp. All it had was a lid and headers Do you think I have 390 whp?????? NO.
Go hp to trap speed debate!!!!!!
http://www.race-cars.net/calculators/et_calculator.html
It says my car should have 389whp
My car probably makes 330---350whp. All it had was a lid and headers Do you think I have 390 whp?????? NO.Go hp to trap speed debate!!!!!!
Originally Posted by elky489
YA and your car was a freak also,ran as hard as tonys cammed car that made what 390 whp....Just because your car was stock ish doesnt mean anything,you could have had one of the freak cars that had the vette heads and cam.again im not a firm believer in hp to et but hp to mph i am.The calculators dont factor in tq and car setup at all so the et is out the window but the mph is usally pretty close.
No corvette parts. 241 casting LS1 heads, 6.0l truck cam that came stock in 2001 ls1s. LS1 block.
Do you think headers and a lid made my car gain 90 whp (like your calculators suggest)? Weird.
BTW--Tonys cam set-up made ~370whp. Truth.
Originally Posted by elky489
No but you were on a 6speed that takes alot less power to use and you were on street tires...those to factors right there are worth 4 to 6mph.....30 whp is about 3 mph..Tony you must think im stupid or something....Well make up your mind on your wieght first it was 3800 to try and hussle a street race now 3600 now 3500 what is it tony......So again you gained mph with a t400 without more boost i call bullshit again....But good runs tony glad it hasnt blown up yet.
Wait wait..... the 6 spd carries a spool time for EVERY GEAR... on the auto it's spool once out of the hole and stay spooled the whole trip; that HAS to be worth something.