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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 06:37 PM
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I have a 414 stroker and was thinking of a s/c or a turbo. I have a flat top piston w/ 2cc. If I just change my heads to a stock 6.0 317 cast what would my comp be and could I do a s/c? I am trying to do this w/out tearing the motor apart just to change the pistons.
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I have a 414 stroker and was thinking of a s/c or a turbo. I have a flat top piston w/ 2cc. If I just change my heads to a stock 6.0 317 cast what would my comp be and could I do a s/c? I am trying to do this w/out tearing the motor apart just to change the pistons.
Jeremy, the cost of swapping your setup over to makeing REAL HP is going to cost you $$$


Sure all you could do now is swap heads, but you wouldnt be able to make alot of boost b/c of compression. what's the point of spending 3-5K if you can only run 5-10lbs of boost??

IMO, if you're going to take the FI plunge, do it right. you'll want new pistons/rings/heads and then you'll need to upgrade your entire fuel system to support the new power.

This is one reason why i was on bottle for so long. I told myself that i didnt want to go FI and make the same HP(710HP on the bottle) or just a little more HP. If i was going to do it, i'd go for a BIG setup.

Do it once and do it right.

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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 07:13 PM
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You compression is going to be on the high side... U might get away with 5-7psi from a Procharger.
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 07:20 PM
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by using your current piston and 317 casting heads your static compression will still be around ~10.5:1
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 07:27 PM
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by using your current piston and 317 casting heads your static compression will still be around ~10.5:1
I could do a procharger around that comp. Even at low boost I should make good power.
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 07:30 PM
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I could do a procharger around that comp. Even at low boost I should make good power.
On that motor and compression a D-1SC can supply you with enough air up to 750rwhp. If you dont have an A/C and plan to change the pistons in the future then I would look at starting with a larger blower such as F1-A or F1-C.

Good luck.
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 07:53 PM
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On that motor and compression a D-1SC can supply you with enough air up to 750rwhp. If you dont have an A/C and plan to change the pistons in the future then I would look at starting with a larger blower such as F1-A or F1-C.

Good luck.
Thanks. Back to the drawing board. HP is more addicting than crack hahahahaha
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Thanks. Back to the drawing board. HP is more addicting than crack hahahahaha

more expensive too!
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more expensive too!
But once you go BOOST, there is nooo coming back
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LSs1Power
But once you go BOOST, there is nooo coming back
oh i know. i'm building my setup right now.


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With 10.5/1 compression, a ProCharger and 93 octane will give you quite a bit of boost before you have to worry about detonation. Bob
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 07:55 AM
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oh i know. i'm building my setup right now.







im gonna go with GT55 for the block?
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by jeremym
I could do a procharger around that comp. Even at low boost I should make good power.
Then you'll have more excuses then you do now about getting beat...eheh
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Silver Bullet 98
im gonna go with GT55 for the block?

?????
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Originally Posted by TINKRD
?????
I think he is playing Hollywood squares on you..(tic tac toe)
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 06:51 PM
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Then you'll have more excuses then you do now about getting beat...eheh
What do you mean? Who have I lost too? I have only lost twice with my set up. One was a 522ci stroker RSI viper and I lost by 1 car and that was motor to motor, and the other was a N2O car with me on motor and him on N2O.

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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 08:47 PM
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?????

is that a gt55 in that bag?
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 07:21 AM
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is that a gt55 in that bag?

oh i thought you were trying to ask ask if my block (motor) was going to be a GT55.

i was like WTF?

gt47-88
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by jeremym
What do you mean? Who have I lost too? I have only lost twice with my set up. One was a 522ci stroker RSI viper and I lost by 1 car and that was motor to motor, and the other was a N2O car with me on motor and him on N2O.
You have to race people to actually win or lose

On the street its anything goes...Spray, NA, FI, etc....Cant complain when you bring a knife (NA car) to a gun fight.

You've had enough tuning issues as it is, pull the pistons and swap em. move to a 6.0 head ( I have some that will outflow what you got on your car by a huge margin) and put it back together. Put you a custom kit on the car with a 91.5mm Thumper in the gril and drive the **** out of it. Please dont take my advice. My car is still in pieces.
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by V6 Bird
You have to race people to actually win or lose

On the street its anything goes...Spray, NA, FI, etc....Cant complain when you bring a knife (NA car) to a gun fight.

You've had enough tuning issues as it is, pull the pistons and swap em. move to a 6.0 head ( I have some that will outflow what you got on your car by a huge margin) and put it back together. Put you a custom kit on the car with a 91.5mm Thumper in the gril and drive the **** out of it. Please dont take my advice. My car is still in pieces.

you selling those heads?

i'm thinking of going with some ported L92 w/ a carb intake to match....but still just thinking about it. lots more research to do.
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