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Old 03-09-2007, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 427
BS3-004-003 2,295 LS1 system std. Includes harness for LS1, software and wide band 02
BS3-004-004 2,495 LS1 system with internal data logger. This has the same parts as 003 with addition of data logger.


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EDIT. If you give us some info we can install base cal to help you get started.

Thats not a bad price Kurt......

One of these days i might switch......
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Originally Posted by 02SSLE
well worth the money. data logging
Sure is, have no idea who wouldnt want it.

Standard BS3 comes with datalogging just to clarify, the DAI option is being able to log a pass without a laptop in the car and upload it after the run. Without DAI you need a laptop in the car during a run to log it.
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Originally Posted by kp
Sure is, have no idea who wouldnt want it.

Standard BS3 comes with datalogging just to clarify, the DAI option is being able to log a pass without a laptop in the car and upload it after the run. Without DAI you need a laptop in the car during a run to log it.

Thats sweet and sounds like its way worth it.....


How many runs can it hold???
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Originally Posted by kp
Sure is, have no idea who wouldnt want it.

Standard BS3 comes with datalogging just to clarify, the DAI option is being able to log a pass without a laptop in the car and upload it after the run. Without DAI you need a laptop in the car during a run to log it.
Thank you, THAT'S the information I was after.

DAI = ?

So DAI is what's costing you $200, correct?
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Originally Posted by NA$TY-TA
Thats sweet and sounds like its way worth it.....


How many runs can it hold???
Just one but it has a crapload of resolution/channel and its not CPU dependant like a stock PCM datalogger is where when things get busy you start loosing chunks of data. Same number of useful frames every pass..

It will hold the log as long as you want unless you disconnect the battery, I usually log every pass but only upload to the laptop good or bad runs when I want to see something. Be nice to hold 40 passes like the old EFIlive wart but not really necessary.
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Originally Posted by SScam68
Thank you, THAT'S the information I was after.

DAI = ?

So DAI is what's costing you $200, correct?
Yes, DAI = Data Aquisition Internal, just means you dont need a laptop in the car to log a pass - thats whats costing you 200.00.
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Originally Posted by SScam68
Thank you, THAT'S the information I was after.
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Originally Posted by Reckless
Best price is without a doubt Wheel to Wheel....call and ask for Kurt. 248-589-1190
+1 for Kurt. Even if they weren't the cheapest I would recomend going to them since Kurt goes out of his way to help you with any problems you may have with anything on your car. Kurt is one of the best people I have ever delt with
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Originally Posted by 69vette
+1 for Kurt. Even if they weren't the cheapest I would recomend going to them since Kurt goes out of his way to help you with any problems you may have with anything on your car. Kurt is one of the best people I have ever delt with
No doubt, one of the few people that are willing to spend a little time and talk about what you are buying and isnt afraid of sharing some good info. Not just with the BS3 stuff either..
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Kurt, whats the pricing on the BS3 with Transmission control?
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I am not at work today for exact pricing, but it seems to be around 500 more for full trans control. KP gave an excelent explanation of the DAI option, but the one thing that I would like to add is the resolution of the data is much better then using a laptop. No matter how good the laptop is, the connection to the ecu will only flow info so fast. It takes up to 1 minute to download 15 seconds worth of info, because of the data transfer speed.


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Purchased my BS3 with DAI from Wheel 2 Wheel. Thanks again Kurt!
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I never used the laptop to log except for just some initail startup/idle stuff Kurt so I didnt realize that.

But the DAI resolution is very nice, rpm increments per frame on a log are every 20-25rpm in first gear. Some may think its not a big deal but that first 60' is what makes and breaks your ET and its nice to have accurate data whats going on there.
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well i would like to have something for a SBC/LT1.... it priced similar?
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Originally Posted by Dragframe
well i would like to have something for a SBC/LT1.... it priced similar?
They sell a universal base setup that would work on BBC/SBC, dont think have a plug and play LT1 solution but the SBC is cheaper I assume since it doesnt need COP and is more universal.

The 557 BBC F3 procharged car a few posts down has a BS3 on it.
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I think a dai standard box is for sbc is 1995.00, I will check on Monday and post.

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well i would like to have something for a SBC/LT1.... it priced similar?
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Originally Posted by kp
Just one but it has a crapload of resolution/channel
Only 1 run ????

I thought my datalogging was basic. Mine holds about 12 minutes logged every 0.1sec

Less if you add more channels, but I log more than enough....

Logging is worth every pennny. Mine even logs wheelspeeds, which is interesting watching drive slip from one side to other at times during a run.

I'll be upgrading to a better version of my ecu soon though. My biggest complaint though, is the damn thing wont run low z injectors
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Originally Posted by kp
I never used the laptop to log except for just some initail startup/idle stuff Kurt so I didnt realize that.

But the DAI resolution is very nice, rpm increments per frame on a log are every 20-25rpm in first gear. Some may think its not a big deal but that first 60' is what makes and breaks your ET and its nice to have accurate data whats going on there.

How do you set up the DAI to record the run? I thought I recalled it needing to be wired to a switch but I never set mine up. I've always used the laptop to log the car. thanks.


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