Complete Incon Kit ... how much?
Originally Posted by ta02zx10r
I was just curious as to why everyone thinks that integrated wastegated turbos are power deficient and inferior to a turbo with a remote mounted waste gate.
I know they (internal gates) are fine to +700rwhp. My boost was very stable with EB2. Some have gone to 850rwhp with them.
Originally Posted by peter@aps
If you don't use an aftermarket K member on the F body you are then confined to running small intergrally wasted gated turbochargers that are very power limited...............I truly believe that the mass F body market has moved well past smallish integrally wastegated turbochargers and associated problems.
Peter
Peter
I agree that external wastegates are the best option, but I dont think internal gates are horrible. Like Onfire said, they have been proven to 700 rhwp and more. That is fine for me, 700 is enough for my car.
And the incon turbos I have are GT30 series, and are rated to flow the same air that your APS turbos do.
The gen tt kit has already went 720's with 12lbs of boost already. This is with the smaller turbos that they intially were offering but they now have a set that is larger than those. I disagree with the hp numbers that can be achieved with integrated wastegates. If these wastegates are so obsolete then why is it that all the turbo manufacturers still offer the integrated's turbos on their sites? Just trying to get an idea of why these things are so bad.
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Originally Posted by ta02zx10r
The gen tt kit has already went 720's with 12lbs of boost already. This is with the smaller turbos that they intially were offering but they now have a set that is larger than those. I disagree with the hp numbers that can be achieved with integrated wastegates. If these wastegates are so obsolete then why is it that all the turbo manufacturers still offer the integrated's turbos on their sites? Just trying to get an idea of why these things are so bad.
Internal gates aren't too bad, there's people on here making quite a bit of power with them. However if I was going with something max effort.....nothing but an external gate would be used.
Originally Posted by bowtieman81
I agree that external wastegates are the best option, but I dont think internal gates are horrible. Like Onfire said, they have been proven to 700 rhwp and more. That is fine for me, 700 is enough for my car.
And the incon turbos I have are GT30 series, and are rated to flow the same air that your APS turbos do.
And the incon turbos I have are GT30 series, and are rated to flow the same air that your APS turbos do.
Peter
