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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 09:21 AM
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Last summer we were running 12psi boost all day, but on our last ride last fall, boost was down to like 10 psi... so we thought it was a simple intake leak somewhere... no big deal...

This spring, when we first ran it, it was showing like 10 psi... (we still did not check the intake..) but it seems each times we run it, boost comes down and .. down and ... down.... now its between 7 and 8 psi at 6K rpm....

We just checked the intake by capping the inlet of supercharger and using the vacuum hose connected to intake to apply pressure on the entire intake system... it held 12psi with no more supply of air for like 30 seconds before slowly falling to 11psi ... so that pretty much eliminate any possibility of the intake being at fault...


So we are really wondering what happened :shock:
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 11:19 AM
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check all the clamps to see if they are tight, probably a pipe is leaking or popped off at the bottom that you don't see.
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 11:21 AM
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Clean the air filter.
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 11:21 AM
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But how would it hold 12psi of air compressor without leaking then?
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 12:45 PM
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Loose belt? +1 for air filter cleaning.
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 02:29 PM
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I will check air filter... we never know....

Would a slipping belt have some symptoms other than that loss of boost?
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 02:40 PM
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no. you will see dust. but vortech's spring loaded tensioner system is a very top notch. i've never encountered belt slip.

it is possible i guess. try the air filter , its gotta be something easy.
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Okay I am in process of cleaning filter element (K&N) because it was a bit dirty (blackish).

Will let you know if problem got solved.
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no. you will see dust. but vortech's spring loaded tensioner system is a very top notch. i've never encountered belt slip.

it is possible i guess. try the air filter , its gotta be something easy.

There is a little bit of black sooth around the supercharger's pulley....
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 06:46 AM
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Air filter is like a brand new one now (was a bit dirty...)

Boost is now down to between 7 and 8 psi....

at this rate... I wonder when I will start seeing vacuum at full boost...

just plain too weird.
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Originally Posted by mulot30th
There is a little bit of black sooth around the supercharger's pulley....
Belt slipping, rubber crumbs
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 09:24 PM
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Do I need another tensioner?

belt has only like 400-500 miles on it....


will try a new belt just in case...
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try the belt first, maybe try one size smaller if you can fit it on.
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 05:55 PM
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Its already really tight...

maybe its the smaller pulley... we installed a smaller (2.5") pulley....

so I guess we will have to live with the fact we need a new strap every 1 or 2 ride...
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 06:14 PM
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I didn't see where you did anything to the Vortech stock recirculation valve? The stock bosch unit is prone to failing and bleading boost back to the inlet and increasing the temp and causes the type of boost drop you are describing etc... Get the billet one that is sold by Richart Racing or a Vortech race Bypass valve those bosch ones don't like anything above 10-11 psi although they have held for people they don't last.
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 10:58 PM
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The bypass valve is NOT recirculating air we vent it to atmosphere... and its so noisy (pppsssssshhhhhh sound) that we could never miss it if it were leaking anything significative...

will try belt first... then the bov....
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Okay, we tried new belt, did not do it.

we tried belt dressing on it (the gummy stuff) and boost was up to about 9-10# (which is still far off the 12-13# we were seeing before) and... belt was disintegrated after about 2 miles.

So back with our old belt with the stuff on it, and boost is right at 9-10#...

I understand it may slip, but why cant we stop it from slipping anymore while it was no slipping back when we got 12-13# of boost?

Am I just too idiot to understand something?
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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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I have seen issues with different pullies that I believe are caused by different pulley surface treatments, like anodizing vs. hard anodizing. I have a 3.12" Vortech pulley that has very little slip, but I have another pulley from ASP which is a 2.85" one and it slips like crazy. I looked at the ASP pulley under a microscope and the finish is a lot smoother than then Vortech. So I'm just not going to use it, ever.

Have you considered the Vortech Hi-Traction pullies? They are hard anodized. I just got one for my T-trim but have not tried it yet, but the surface is noticeably more grippier.

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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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is it really hot where you are now? my boost will decrease when it gets hotter out. was it cooler when you were making more boost?
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 12:02 AM
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not very hot, I am in Quebec in Canada.

My 2.5" pulley is an ASP pulley... so I guess its a smooth surface...

I dont know if sanding it would work?
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