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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 11:07 AM
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I admit I am new the the LS. I have been reading a lot of the sticky's I have to go back an reread them sometimes cause there is a lot of info in them. It is frustrating the search function times out, I can usually find threads with the info i need that way on other boards but they do not compare to the wealth of info here.

I will definitely shop around for the right system and tuner.

I'll check back when I get stuck and have questions.

Definitely, want something I can use on the stock engine but is upgradeable to work with a built 408.(long term plans)

Wow, JAvenger007 You got your hands on a W-30! Nice.
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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wow, it would be worth it for you to drive up north for your tuning then.

Synergy (sponser --->) is one of the best and it would be approx $500 (call them for exact price) total for a complete tune.

They have done many turbo cars as well. You may want to talk to them for advise or even about fabbing a custom kit for you which they do.
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BigJls1
this fleabay kit might seem cheap but if you add: the two new quality turbos such as garrett to4e/t3 @ $600 per, + a real wastegate like tial 38mm @ $ 200 per, oh yeah and the one I looked at was for the hot side only, so add the cold piping at maybe $500. what do you get. the kit I saw was like $1200 so add all this up 1200 + 2100. Your getting real close to a sponsor kit with out all the headache. how much are you really saving.


And Thanks ninetres, JAvenger007 and njc.corp for backing me up. I'm really here to help as much as I can and i'm really a good guy

Just looking out for the guys interested in going FI.
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by frcefed98



Just looking out for the guys interested in going FI.


How is that post werd,
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Stroker396
Definitely, want something I can use on the stock engine but is upgradeable to work with a built 408.(long term plans)
Theres some real nice twin kits out now making great power on 400+ci lsx motors. Gen TT and the APS setups.
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Wow, JAvenger007 You got your hands on a W-30! Nice.
yepp heres it after a wash last weekend. only 1k miles on motor since being rebuilt (the original 455). Just happened to find a guy that didn't realize he owned a show car and sold it for 10k less than its worth
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BigJls1
How is that post werd,
i'm in agreement with you hence the WERD, buy the fleabay kit then you have to upgrade the turbo's sooner than later and also add in all the other assorted gear and you are up to the price of a sponsors kit. I'd take the APS kit in a heartbeat at the price they are currently offering it if I wasn't already Turbocharged.

Unless I read your post wrong...

I give up I can't win, when I agree with you guys you still come at me Tough crowd these days.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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I AM AN IDOIT... I thought that the smillie said WIERD . what a dumb ***. forcefed Im sorry for questioning you.
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 03:39 PM
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LT1 + boost for the win
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 02:06 AM
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it might be worht noting that PTK/S is not making an freinds over on the Vette forum. guysh ave been waiting for close to a year for parts and not got them! they say they can make the stuff in something like 21 days.

now the guys mate on here that got the 'fleabay' kit or whatever you guys are calling it got it VERY quickly! also its was all stainless, the PTS kit is mild steel.

so ok you have to swap the turbos for somthing better (most guys swap to bigger turbos pretty quick anyway! lol) and you dont get instructions and a few bits and bobs. its a hold lot cheaper than buying form PTS and a lot easier than bullding your own kit! and im not even going to mention cost!

my opinion is not form first and dealings with either company, its just what i have been told!

thanks CHris.
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 10:27 AM
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I would love to see a sponsor take over that company's hot parts and sell it as a more complete setup for around $3500 (minus fuel) and a little more financial backing.
-Your choice of TC70, 72, or 76
-Alternator Relocation Bracket
-Turbo Blanket, Oil Lines, V-bands, Tial BOV and WG
-Intercooler and piping

Then just leave it up to you for fuel, PCV, and option of having scavenge pump or just returning to the pan.
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by JAvenger007
I would love to see a sponsor take over that company's hot parts and sell it as a more complete setup for around $3500 (minus fuel) and a little more financial backing.
-Your choice of TC70, 72, or 76
-Alternator Relocation Bracket
-Turbo Blanket, Oil Lines, V-bands, Tial BOV and WG
-Intercooler and piping

Then just leave it up to you for fuel, PCV, and option of having scavenge pump or just returning to the pan.
There is no money to be made there... no worth a sponsor's effort. If you were talking $4500 then thats a different story.
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Old Sep 29, 2007 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Stroker396
I admit I am new the the LS. I have been reading a lot of the sticky's I have to go back an reread them sometimes cause there is a lot of info in them. It is frustrating the search function times out, I can usually find threads with the info i need that way on other boards but they do not compare to the wealth of info here.

I will definitely shop around for the right system and tuner.

I'll check back when I get stuck and have questions.

Definitely, want something I can use on the stock engine but is upgradeable to work with a built 408.(long term plans)

Wow, JAvenger007 You got your hands on a W-30! Nice.
stroker396

I am willing to help you out anytime if you have questions you have anytime, just send me a pm.

What you really need to determin how much HP you want to have when its all said and done. I am happy with 508 RWHP or so and my LS1 is totally stock so I am going with the APS kit, its a steal at the current $5495 price free shipping.

If you are going to run much more than a 383 CI engine then you might want to wait till APS comes out with their upgraded/bigger turbos. I've heard alot of good about the speed inc kits also, and they already have the bigger turbos which will work better for 383+CI engines.

Just look at your bankroll, your HP goals, and whether or not you are going to install and tune it yourself and find the best kit for your needs.

If you would like better information from the great guys here it will help if you give them more info on what you are looking for.

I know its hard being a newb,

Good luck finding the right kit.

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Old Sep 29, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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Thanks fil131,

Ya, I have thought about HP goals, budget. Think I have a fair grasp now on the systems out there, how to install them, what can and can't be done.

Right now I am looking at intercooler options. I do not want to butcher the car like some do cutting out chunks of the front bumper or removing fog lights to get it air. Also not familiar with the air to water option.

This is next years project but I am doing my homework now. Basically I want to boost the stock engine but then have a system that can accept more boost later when I build an engine for it. That really just means changing the springs in the BOV and wastegate right? (I know tuning as well)

Also trying to figure out where to mount the guages without removing all the dash vents.

Also I see some turbos are oil and water cooled so trying to learn about the water side of that.
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Old Sep 30, 2007 | 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Stroker396
Thanks fil131,

Ya, I have thought about HP goals, budget. Think I have a fair grasp now on the systems out there, how to install them, what can and can't be done.

Right now I am looking at intercooler options. I do not want to butcher the car like some do cutting out chunks of the front bumper or removing fog lights to get it air. Also not familiar with the air to water option.

This is next years project but I am doing my homework now. Basically I want to boost the stock engine but then have a system that can accept more boost later when I build an engine for it. That really just means changing the springs in the BOV and wastegate right? (I know tuning as well)

Also trying to figure out where to mount the guages without removing all the dash vents.

Also I see some turbos are oil and water cooled so trying to learn about the water side of that.
Well if you have the money now, I would highly suggest you jump on the APS kit while the price is low with free S&H because it will work well on your stock LS1, and requires very very little cutting and bending of body/bumper areas. And you will be able to keep all accessories and foglights. It also has headroom for upgrading turbos later when aps comes out with them or you may have similar manifolds fabbed up for a couple hundred with flanges that will fit garrets or turbonetics.

Of course you can always have a whole system fabbed but it will take alot of time.

The intercooler is a huge plus with this system as well, it fits right in without cutting huge chunks out of your car, and promotes direct intake flow with its upward flow design.

Just to give you some info 1 FMIC is better than 2 seperate smaller intercoolers, and water to air just helps to cool and densify the air better (may only add a few more HP and TQ per LB of boost).

To higher boost you will just have to dial it up with your boost controller, the bov doesnt have to be changed in any way unless it is not able to flow enough air to prevent backflowing air to the turbos.

The springs in the wastegates set the minimum boost you can run. If you use 3lb springs then the wastegates will allow no less than 3lbs of boost to reach your turbos.

The boost controller whether you use electronic or mechanical is what you set the maximum boost with, and can dial it in to whatever boost level you want either under the hood or in the cabin depending on models.

The LS1's dont really offer much for guage mounting, A-Piller is usually the best/easiest option, or you can find somewhere to hide them if you want.

Turbos are basically oil lubed and water cooled. I dont know if I can explain it more that should sum it up for you. Look for water cooled they will last longer and help with keeping the boosted air a bit cooler, the water cooled turbos also do not require turbo timers in most cases.

Hope this helps.

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Old Sep 30, 2007 | 11:05 AM
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Oh ya every bit helps.

I am not sure if anyone makes the A pillar guage pod for a convertible. If so I would love to see the link. I like the look, my only concern is it tips the cops off to pop your hood. Only other spot I can think that would look decent is in the glove box.

With the air to water, I am just not sure how to route them. I see talk of the water chest mounted in the trunk.

As for the water cooled portion of the turbo, do you tap into the rad?

Unfortunately I can't do the APS kit right now. Having decided to keep both cars (an expense in itself) I have a lot of projects in the works on both of them as we speak. Not to mention the wife and kids. What's funny is I see guys selling their cars when that happens and here I am buying another

Also, I see that APS has an upgrade option to larger turbos.
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Originally posted by: Stroker396
Having decided to keep both cars (an expense in itself) I have a lot of projects in the works on both of them as we speak. Not to mention the wife and kids. What's funny is I see guys selling their cars when that happens and here I am buying another

My turbo project should be on the road at the same time my twins are born. Might bring'em home in it. I pieced my kit together- 6.0 truck manifolds and a crossover from another member on here. Still have to build the DP, but I have less than $400 in the hot parts right now; just to give you some more options.
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Check out Thunder Racing I believe I saw a A-piller gauge pod for a convertable on there last week when I ordered mine.
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