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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 01:21 PM
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Default Turbo Sizing for a 341" DeSoto Hemi

From reading this section for years, I really don't know where else to ask for help on this.

I have a 1956 DeSoto 341" hemi in my 1949 Hudson. I'd like to turbo it and was doing some reading at forcedinductions.com and over at turbofast.com.au. I was given a recommendation to use something with larger than a 70mm inducer, seeing as that compressor size would be paired with a turbine housing that wouldn't choke the exhaust side of the engine with sky high pressure ratios.

A T76 looks good to my eyes, running about 7psi. I found a Precision Pt-74 for sale and was wondering if that would work as well. It has an on-center housing with a .85 A/R.

The setup would be through the stock exhaust manifolds going through some stainless tubing to a front mount setup, ala F-body front mounts. It would be a blow-though carb setup as well.

Thoughts and opinions would be appreciated.
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Very cool, I thought about turbocharging my '51 Merc but I have too much going on right now. You might also want to check around www.jalopyjournal.com though it's more of a traditional pre-64 website. But you can search on key words like 'turbo.'

I'd think you'd want to research between 66mm and 80mm turbos. How high can you spin that engine, 5500? I have a crate SBC in the Merc.

I'm running a large frame 47-88 in my Formula and it's laggy at lower rpms.
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I've been a member over on the HAMB for a couple years now, but it seems like most of the guys over there are concerned with how many 97's they can stuff on an intake, but to be honest I never searched there.

The engine signs off right around 4500rpm now. But there are stories of the cams that came in that engine being ground on a 121* LSA. I had originally looked at a 60-1 turbo, but that exhaust housing would be more suited to the 4.8L in my truck. I then looked into the MP T70 turbos, and am still on the fence about one of those units, with the mixed reviews that are out there.

My gut seems like something in the 70-76mm range would do the best.

How is the Merc coming along John? I thought I read about you wanting to swap some form of Lsx in there.
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A TC76 would be a nice fit for that cube motor. It will work very well and spool VERY fast as well.
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A TC76 would be a nice fit for that cube motor. It will work very well and spool VERY fast as well.
What trim wheel would you recommend?
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Tangent: I am tempted to drop in an LS-something into the Merc, maybe if an interesting shortblock comes my way I'll get motivated. I already have a TH350 in the car, and I have two LS1 TH400/TH350 converters just sitting here.

You can also look at www.theturboforums.com too. How would you control the fueling?
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Originally Posted by Keith
From reading this section for years, I really don't know where else to ask for help on this.

I have a 1956 DeSoto 341" hemi in my 1949 Hudson. I'd like to turbo it and was doing some reading at forcedinductions.com and over at turbofast.com.au. I was given a recommendation to use something with larger than a 70mm inducer, seeing as that compressor size would be paired with a turbine housing that wouldn't choke the exhaust side of the engine with sky high pressure ratios.

A T76 looks good to my eyes, running about 7psi. I found a Precision Pt-74 for sale and was wondering if that would work as well. It has an on-center housing with a .85 A/R.

The setup would be through the stock exhaust manifolds going through some stainless tubing to a front mount setup, ala F-body front mounts. It would be a blow-though carb setup as well.

Thoughts and opinions would be appreciated.
Just out of curiosity, what plans do you have for brakes?
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Originally Posted by hawk584
well, this the turbo he is talking about.









wish it would work for him.
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Originally Posted by hawk584
The Car:


The Engine:



Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
Tangent: I am tempted to drop in an LS-something into the Merc, maybe if an interesting shortblock comes my way I'll get motivated. I already have a TH350 in the car, and I have two LS1 TH400/TH350 converters just sitting here.

You can also look at www.theturboforums.com too. How would you control the fueling?
You could do a 327 if you still have that 4.8L crank laying around and a 6.0L block.

I'd control the fueling with the 600cfm Edelbrock carb that I have on there now, probably hooked to a Studebaker R2 inlet elbow. I'd monitor the fueling with a wideband most likely.


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Just out of curiosity, what plans do you have for brakes?
I have a disc brake kit coming for it this week. It has billet steel hubs to replace the stock iron ones. I can then put discs on those hubs.
Bruce Crower ran 157mph on the salt with a 6-71 blown '53 Chrysler hemi in his 1949 hudson coupe with stock brakes. I'm not that brave though, since when these four wheel manual drums things heat up, they fade very badly.

Originally Posted by trtturbo
well, this the turbo he is talking about.
Yep, thats the one boys.
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Originally Posted by Keith
What trim wheel would you recommend?
For the turbine side....definitely the F1.
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I actually threw out that 4.8 crank I had when I moved two moves ago.

Car looks cool!
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by DrTurbo
For the turbine side....definitely the F1.
Is it better to call or Pm you guys about an out the door and shipped quote?


Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
I actually threw out that 4.8 crank I had when I moved two moves ago.

Car looks cool!
You'll find something that will pique your interest. Thanks, your car doesn't look half bad either. Your car is essentially the more popular version of mine; when I'm out driving it, everyone asks if it is a Packard or a Merc.
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Default Turbocharged Desoto 341

Originally Posted by Keith
The Car:

The Engine:




You could do a 327 if you still have that 4.8L crank laying around and a 6.0L block.

I'd control the fueling with the 600cfm Edelbrock carb that I have on there now, probably hooked to a Studebaker R2 inlet elbow. I'd monitor the fueling with a wideband most likely.



I have a disc brake kit coming for it this week. It has billet steel hubs to replace the stock iron ones. I can then put discs on those hubs.
Bruce Crower ran 157mph on the salt with a 6-71 blown '53 Chrysler hemi in his 1949 hudson coupe with stock brakes. I'm not that brave though, since when these four wheel manual drums things heat up, they fade very badly.


Yep, thats the one boys.
Have you turboed your Desoto yet? I'm doing a twin turbo 341 for my Valiant. My buddy is building a twin turbo 341 for his 31 Ford.
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