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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by y2khawk
alot of the big turbo drag cars doing it. It's more for staging the car than anything else, but they do break alot of turbo shafts it seems
I guess they can afford it ,not me though lol. Thanks for the explination also.
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 11:39 AM
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the theory behind it.

Normally, your valve is closed when there's no vacuum in the manifold. If you hook up the top side of a gate you'd get what would be normal BOV operation.

Now, on a gate you've still got the bottom port, which would normally be used to apply boost pressure and push open the gate to regulate. But on the intake side, you can put say CO2 on there to hold it open.

So when you stage the car you can basically leave the intake tube wide open and have very little boost, but the actual exhaust side wastegate will stay closed and your turbo will be running near max shaft speed for your launch RPM. Awesome for initial boost response within the first 10 to 60 feet of a pass, but VERY hard on parts

Big turbos have relatively heavy wheels, and that whole inertia thing at 80k+ shaft RPM is what causes all those sheared compressor wheel failures you hear about. atleast IMO

MAX shaft speed, slam the intake gate shut and there's a huge pressure and load spike before the exhaust wastegate can react.
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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I like the theory, I bet it hits really ******* hard lol
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now that's something new to me
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Wow, I feel like an *** now. I was laughing, and now I'm not. Learn something new every day I guess. Strange concept, but I guess it works. Definitely not something we'd see on a driver, but a drag car it makes sense!
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Originally Posted by DrTurbo
Yes you can run the WG on the intake side to regulate boost.....NOT a good idea as this sometimes causes a turbo to overspin.

Yeah, basically the exhaust housing gets ALL the exhaust and the WG acts like a boost controller on the intake charge, regulating the how much makes it in...

That's hard on the turbo though!

But why the BOV on the exhaust side? How does that work?
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Originally Posted by bboyferal

But why the BOV on the exhaust side? How does that work?
It looks like a Tial 60mm WG to me.
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Originally Posted by WS6HUMMER
It looks like a Tial 60mm WG to me.
Oops... So it's two WG's...
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