Boostane????????????????
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From: Wichita KS / Rancho San Diego
All the technical considerations aside, there was a product called Octanium available some years ago. The stuff worked. I would typically get several degrees of knock retard on the 91 octane available around here, and adding it would clear it and I would run faster.
This is as opposed to adding Toluene, which corrected the knock retard, but caused me to run slower.
I've tried all the usual octane boosters (usually MMT based) and Octanium was the only one that did anything.
If Boostane is a similar formula, it just might work for you.
This is as opposed to adding Toluene, which corrected the knock retard, but caused me to run slower.
I've tried all the usual octane boosters (usually MMT based) and Octanium was the only one that did anything.
If Boostane is a similar formula, it just might work for you.
Yes I can possibly do this. But my goal for this build is to be able to pump gas into it anywhere. Not just at home out of a 55 gallon drum. So I'm trying to figure out any option to do that right now. But yes i could do that...although i would need bigger injectors.
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From: Portland OR
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From: Wichita KS / Rancho San Diego
Good to know it's still available. I gave up on it after being unable to find it in stores or online. As I said, it's the only octane booster that's ever done anything for me.
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Peanut gallery opinion, (I've worked with a ton of fuel vendors over the last 25 years.. )
Fuel manufacturers change the additive package all the time, there is no way to predict the outcome with pump gas and octane boosters long term. So even if the source will test on your pump gas, the next truck may bring a different chemical combination. That may work better or worse you wont know til the expensive noises come out of the engine.
If you cant buy E100, Any large chem supply house can sell you 50 gal drums of Ethanol or Methanol about 300 to 400 US. Your best long term bet is to get a ECU that can carry a dual tune or a spare ECU, 1 for pump gas and one for Alcohol/race gas and run a extra 5 gal tank.. With separate plumbing.
You can buy also buy Sunoco E100 at almost any circle track in the south...
Fuel manufacturers change the additive package all the time, there is no way to predict the outcome with pump gas and octane boosters long term. So even if the source will test on your pump gas, the next truck may bring a different chemical combination. That may work better or worse you wont know til the expensive noises come out of the engine.
If you cant buy E100, Any large chem supply house can sell you 50 gal drums of Ethanol or Methanol about 300 to 400 US. Your best long term bet is to get a ECU that can carry a dual tune or a spare ECU, 1 for pump gas and one for Alcohol/race gas and run a extra 5 gal tank.. With separate plumbing.
You can buy also buy Sunoco E100 at almost any circle track in the south... 
Bus Fuel = E-95 OK, you want "pump fuel", try E-95.
This fuel is made for High Compression Tubrocharged bus engine operation.
Would you be able to find this pump fuel in your area ?
Lance
This fuel is made for High Compression Tubrocharged bus engine operation.
Would you be able to find this pump fuel in your area ?
Lance
Peanut gallery opinion, (I've worked with a ton of fuel vendors over the last 25 years.. )
Fuel manufacturers change the additive package all the time, there is no way to predict the outcome with pump gas and octane boosters long term. So even if the source will test on your pump gas, the next truck may bring a different chemical combination. That may work better or worse you wont know til the expensive noises come out of the engine.
If you cant buy E100, Any large chem supply house can sell you 50 gal drums of Ethanol or Methanol about 300 to 400 US. Your best long term bet is to get a ECU that can carry a dual tune or a spare ECU, 1 for pump gas and one for Alcohol/race gas and run a extra 5 gal tank.. With separate plumbing. You can buy also buy Sunoco E100 at almost any circle track in the south...
Fuel manufacturers change the additive package all the time, there is no way to predict the outcome with pump gas and octane boosters long term. So even if the source will test on your pump gas, the next truck may bring a different chemical combination. That may work better or worse you wont know til the expensive noises come out of the engine.
If you cant buy E100, Any large chem supply house can sell you 50 gal drums of Ethanol or Methanol about 300 to 400 US. Your best long term bet is to get a ECU that can carry a dual tune or a spare ECU, 1 for pump gas and one for Alcohol/race gas and run a extra 5 gal tank.. With separate plumbing.
You can buy also buy Sunoco E100 at almost any circle track in the south...I was just really wanting to build this car to be pumped anywhere. I may just have to run lower boost and conservative timing. That with Boostane and meth should be plenty safe. Boostane company is fairly new, they aren't a huge company . If you call them you can actually talk to one of the engineers if you want. I like that about them, they care to talk to you.
I believe it’s required by law for all to provide an MSDS on a product like that. If you request it they have to give it to you. It’s usually posted on the website. But by law it has to be available to the general public. Would give you an idea what’s in it anyway.
Pump ethanol is by far the cheapest octane boost there is IMO. Drive to an E85 pump and get a drum full. Mix it 50/50 with your 87 octane. There’s a Delphi research paper out there where they tested many different ethanol blends and found the anti-knock index of each. Basically showed going over 50% ethanol gives you diddly as far as additional knock resistance. 50% Won’t kill you on the fuel system requirements and will offer the same anti-knock rating as actual E85.
You can also get drums of IGNITE 114 which is a 90% ethanol blended with a little race gas. Sold to dirt track racers mostly. Any fuel distributor can get it. Just need to call around. I'm in KS as well and Ethanol is not hard to come by if you drive a little. Should be able to get 91 octane as well? Not that it's needed.
Pump ethanol is by far the cheapest octane boost there is IMO. Drive to an E85 pump and get a drum full. Mix it 50/50 with your 87 octane. There’s a Delphi research paper out there where they tested many different ethanol blends and found the anti-knock index of each. Basically showed going over 50% ethanol gives you diddly as far as additional knock resistance. 50% Won’t kill you on the fuel system requirements and will offer the same anti-knock rating as actual E85.
You can also get drums of IGNITE 114 which is a 90% ethanol blended with a little race gas. Sold to dirt track racers mostly. Any fuel distributor can get it. Just need to call around. I'm in KS as well and Ethanol is not hard to come by if you drive a little. Should be able to get 91 octane as well? Not that it's needed.
It is interesting to note that the blending response of RON
and MON as a function of ethanol content is highly nonlinear.
There is a substantial octane improvement between
Regular Gas (RG) and E10, and between E10 and E50. However, between E50 and E85 there is very little difference in either RON or
MON. It is well-established that properties of ethanol gasoline
blends, such as Reid vapor pressure, do have nonlinear responses.
and MON as a function of ethanol content is highly nonlinear.
There is a substantial octane improvement between
Regular Gas (RG) and E10, and between E10 and E50. However, between E50 and E85 there is very little difference in either RON or
MON. It is well-established that properties of ethanol gasoline
blends, such as Reid vapor pressure, do have nonlinear responses.
Last edited by Forcefed86; Dec 8, 2016 at 02:04 PM.
I believe it’s required by law for all to provide an MSDS on a product like that. If you request it they have to give it to you. It’s usually posted on the website. But by law it has to be available to the general public. Would give you an idea what’s in it anyway.
Pump ethanol is by far the cheapest octane boost there is IMO. Drive to an E85 pump and get a drum full. Mix it 50/50 with your 87 octane. There’s a Delphi research paper out there where they tested many different ethanol blends and found the anti-knock index of each. Basically showed going over 50% ethanol gives you diddly as far as additional knock resistance. 50% Won’t kill you on the fuel system requirements and will offer the same anti-knock rating as actual E85.
You can also get drums of IGNITE 114 which is a 90% ethanol blended with a little race gas. Sold to dirt track racers mostly. Any fuel distributor can get it. Just need to call around. I'm in KS as well and Ethanol is not hard to come by if you drive a little. Should be able to get 91 octane as well? Not that it's needed.
Pump ethanol is by far the cheapest octane boost there is IMO. Drive to an E85 pump and get a drum full. Mix it 50/50 with your 87 octane. There’s a Delphi research paper out there where they tested many different ethanol blends and found the anti-knock index of each. Basically showed going over 50% ethanol gives you diddly as far as additional knock resistance. 50% Won’t kill you on the fuel system requirements and will offer the same anti-knock rating as actual E85.
You can also get drums of IGNITE 114 which is a 90% ethanol blended with a little race gas. Sold to dirt track racers mostly. Any fuel distributor can get it. Just need to call around. I'm in KS as well and Ethanol is not hard to come by if you drive a little. Should be able to get 91 octane as well? Not that it's needed.
I do. I think the PO of my car had some ******* tune put on the car which is stock. Would constantly ping under hard accelration in the summer running 91-93 pump gas. Car has 30K miles, runs flawlessly otherwise. I came across Torco and bought a quart. Put about a third of a bottle in per tank full, zero ping no matter what. Friends 69 Camaro has an old school LT1. Fattened up the carb, retarded timing, could never get rid of ping - just too much compression I spose. Ging to a show we stopped to fill p, I told im to throw some Torco in the tank. Zero ping. Stuff works IMHO.