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Old Jul 7, 2017 | 08:59 PM
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I am working on a 99 transam. I lost fuel pump when i was driving the other day. I replaced the pump and drove for 5 minutes. Car died with no fuel pressure.

I have12 volts at pin 30 on my FP relay. I do not have any voltage to pin 85 on my relay. I traced the green and white wire back to pin 9 of the red harness at the PCM. There is no power coming out of the pin.

Is there anything that would stop power to and from this pin in the PCM? I do not have a security light on.
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Old Jul 8, 2017 | 08:09 PM
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The ECU just turns the relay on. Jump that wire straight to the battery or an ignition source and see if the pump comes on.
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Old Jul 10, 2017 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by afasttransam



I am working on a 99 transam. I lost fuel pump when i was driving the other day. I replaced the pump and drove for 5 minutes. Car died with no fuel pressure.

I have12 volts at pin 30 on my FP relay. I do not have any voltage to pin 85 on my relay. I traced the green and white wire back to pin 9 of the red harness at the PCM. There is no power coming out of the pin.

Is there anything that would stop power to and from this pin in the PCM? I do not have a security light on.
There is no way every you will drive for 5 mins without the pump running.

The relay will be trigger via the ecu when it sees the crank rotating, and it will ground the relay. There should be no power at this pin whilst the crank is turning there should be ground.

When it is not turning, it may appear as if there is power at it.
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Old Jul 12, 2017 | 01:45 AM
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that is not correct. The PCM sends 12+ to the fuel pump relay, its even stated in the diagram you posted.

The PCM only energizes the relay:
1. During key on to prime the pump for 3 seconds
2. when the crank sensor is reading RPM

if you supply 12+ to pin 85 does the fuel pump run?
Tap into the Drk Grn\white wire 465
(the relay will have to be installed when you do this)
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Old Jul 12, 2017 | 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Compsystems
that is not correct. The PCM sends 12+ to the fuel pump relay, its even stated in the diagram you posted.

The PCM only energizes the relay:
1. During key on to prime the pump for 3 seconds
2. when the crank sensor is reading RPM

if you supply 12+ to pin 85 does the fuel pump run?
Tap into the Drk Grn\white wire 465
(the relay will have to be installed when you do this)
Looking at the drawing you are correct, That is very bizarre and unusual for any ecu to do, although sometimes US cars do strange things
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Old Jul 12, 2017 | 07:45 AM
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Yeah, they supply 12v to the fuel pump relay and ground to the fan relays. I'm not sure what the thought behind 12v to the fuel pump relay was.
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