Fueling & Injection Fuel Pumps | Injectors | Rails | Regulators | Tanks

-6an feed limits on E85

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 18, 2021 | 04:00 PM
  #1  
Bosshog's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 328
Likes: 8
From: Minnesota
Default -6an feed limits on E85

So on my current set up I’m running a -6an feed and return. Dual walbro 450s and haven’t decided on SEP 1500s or Bosch 210 injectors yet for my turbo 6.0 . Was wondering what the limits are on a -6an feed line on e85.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2021 | 04:08 PM
  #2  
01CamaroSSTx's Avatar
11 Second Club
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 5,995
Likes: 2,286
From: Conroe, Texas
Default

I've been told 1,000 whp is pushing it on the factory lines and if I were making that much I'd be 8AN anyway.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2021 | 11:17 PM
  #3  
Woodylyf767's Avatar
TECH Regular
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 423
Likes: 131
From: Ohio
Default

https://lmengines.com/pages/fuel-line-calculator

This calculator also suggest your fluid velocity may be turbulent with -6 lines which is a big nono

for 15 ft lines

9 psi pressure drop on -6 lines
2 psi pressure drop on -8 lines
.7 psi pressure drop on -10 lines

Seems like the walbro 450's become very inefficient at around 80 psi

If you ran 20 psi boost, with 60 psi base pressure and 20 psi pressure drop (from lines and fittings number pulled out my ***) you'd be in trouble.

I'm not a tuner and I'm not an expert
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2021 | 05:44 AM
  #4  
Bosshog's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 328
Likes: 8
From: Minnesota
Default

Originally Posted by Woodylyf767
https://lmengines.com/pages/fuel-line-calculator

This calculator also suggest your fluid velocity may be turbulent with -6 lines which is a big nono

for 15 ft lines

9 psi pressure drop on -6 lines
2 psi pressure drop on -8 lines
.7 psi pressure drop on -10 lines

Seems like the walbro 450's become very inefficient at around 80 psi

If you ran 20 psi boost, with 60 psi base pressure and 20 psi pressure drop (from lines and fittings number pulled out my ***) you'd be in trouble.

I'm not a tuner and I'm not an expert
okay so now I’m just confused. How can guys with stock rails and lines run high boost on the sbe cars and make 1000 hp but when I’m running a little bit larger line (-6an) it’s dangerous ? I’m running an adjustable FPR and I’m on a terminator if that means anything. I got big aftermarket rails as well..
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2021 | 08:00 AM
  #5  
Woodylyf767's Avatar
TECH Regular
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 423
Likes: 131
From: Ohio
Default

When I put the flow rate into the calculator I put 900 lb hr for 2 450's which wouldn't be accurate. At any normal base pressure (for efi) the flow would be less on those pumps. My bad.

They most likely have inefficient systems that's it. They just accept their pumps have to work extra hard and they may wind up with their base pressures dropping through a pull.

Just because the pumps are inefficient and there is a bunch of drag doesn't mean it won't work. It's just not ideal.

Like I said before I have a very analytical background. I'm not a tuner haha. Hopefully someone with more experience will chime in

Reply
Old Feb 19, 2021 | 09:00 AM
  #6  
Bosshog's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 328
Likes: 8
From: Minnesota
Default

Originally Posted by Woodylyf767
When I put the flow rate into the calculator I put 900 lb hr for 2 450's which wouldn't be accurate. At any normal base pressure (for efi) the flow would be less on those pumps. My bad.

They most likely have inefficient systems that's it. They just accept their pumps have to work extra hard and they may wind up with their base pressures dropping through a pull.

Just because the pumps are inefficient and there is a bunch of drag doesn't mean it won't work. It's just not ideal.

Like I said before I have a very analytical background. I'm not a tuner haha. Hopefully someone with more experience will chime in
Yeah I figured with mine being a return style the pressure will be constant vs it dropping in between shifts like on a return less style. I’d assume I’d be okay to run what I have rn but I get what your saying.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2021 | 09:02 AM
  #7  
Bosshog's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 328
Likes: 8
From: Minnesota
Default

If anyone else has an idea feel free to chime in. Lol
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:11 AM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE