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Old Oct 16, 2022 | 08:36 AM
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Starting to get colder out, figured I’d take the car out one last time before winter. Car is Procharged 11:1 heads and NA cam with Deka 60s. Haven’t dynod the car but it’s a 62cc 225 head and 235/243 111LSA cam car making around 9 PSI. No dynos close to me

Car is running a 340LPH racetronix with a boost referenced regulator feeding stock feed rails with a 6an Fragola return line. So 3/8s to 3/8s. Car also runs meth from 1 or 2 psi. Had issues this summer on a very hot day after an hour drive or so with what I think was cavitation so upgraded to boost ref’d with a larger return line and issue went away. In this case would the solution simply be to crank the FPR up a hair? Looks leaning out up top with the denser air and more boost per rpm, no problem but then I noticed my duty cycle and how it is linear but then takes off around 5800 rpm.


Thoughts on swapping to a single 450? Will this be too much pump for a street car? Kind of trying to avoid dual pump setups cause the drop ins are just easier for me, cost and labor wise.
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Old Oct 16, 2022 | 11:53 AM
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Are you running out of pump or injector? At 95% I'm thinking you need bigger injectors.
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Old Oct 16, 2022 | 12:34 PM
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These are Deka 60s. They should easily be capable of more than what I’m making..especially with meth right?..same thing with this pump too right? So wtf. Lol. It’s why I came here for thoughts and maybe some real world xp. I’m kind of leaning towards a drop in 450 single. But I’ve seen people recommend against doing that…

the thing that has got me is I think this is a rather new/progressive problem and I’ve been tuning with it, I’m at work but once I get home I’m going to try and find older logs. I honestly think the horror stories with this racetronix 340 are true and I’ve been tuning around growing flow loss..it seems the duty cycle trend takes a rather sharp turn up top around 5,800rpm where it didn’t before. The boost reference is raising PSI 1:1...does that mean pump is losing ability to flow at the higher psis?…One thing for sure though is I would swear people have pushed these Deka 60s into like 7xxwhp territory. And I mean I’m hopeful and all but there’s no way I’m making that much power lol. Also note I’m running a 10gph@100PSI hypersonic nozzle. The snow pump is supposed to be 300PSI.. even with 50/50meth it’s it’s got a decent amount of supplemental fueling with it.

EDIT: just a thought. I’m running stock feed and filter. Filter may be tapped out? I feel I’ve seen someone say flow here is 270ish lph. Filter possible culprit?

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So took the car out and filled up tank and meth. Made a hit. This duty cycle is close to the log from the morning once I compared at a similar rpm however my AFR is much closer to commanded. . On the log from the morning it seems at 6325RPM it breaks into 90% and increases rapidly. At 6450 it is 95.8% and 6,560 it’s broke 99%.. So I think I have two problems. For one I need to sit down at home and add some fuel blanket for the colder weather where I see a touch more kpa at rpm. And for two, maybe set my base psi up just a hair..I don’t have a way to measure fuel pressure drop while driving. What I’m lost on is how is a 340LPH and Deka 60s with methanol injection maxing out on a SBE heads cam car with 9PSI..does this sound right? this fuel pump kit was stated up to 800hp…


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