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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 04:01 PM
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no use in fighting each other. he's not willing to spend the money on the plug and play kit like others are.

if your willing to mod your car, go with the walbro. if you don't trust yourself, go with the racetronix. Racetronix has a good setup for the person that isn't to trusting of themselves (which is alot of people on here i've found) and i've heard there support is second to none
Old Jun 3, 2005 | 04:14 PM
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no use in fighting each other. he's not willing to spend the money on the plug and play kit like others are.

if your willing to mod your car, go with the walbro. if you don't trust yourself, go with the racetronix. Racetronix has a good setup for the person that isn't to trusting of themselves (which is alot of people on here i've found) and i've heard there support is second to none
No fight here. It's not about trusting oneself. It's about maintaining the functionality that GM engineers built into the fuel system for many good reasons which some people fail to appreciate. We asked the question for a good reason. We want to find out what a budget minded customer would consider price wise in order to maintain their fuel system functionality and not having to cannibalize their fuel module. Perhaps we can offer a basic FPA setup like we do for the F-LT1 cars for customers with lower HP requirements.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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I don't have a set price for what i'm going to spend really. I mean the Walbro is like a 100 bucks.

so i do a little modification and save $165 bucks. If I want it back to original, then I buy another canister.

I do like what the Racetronix does...I just can't spend $250 bucks right now.
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unless you want to give me one for free or 100 bucks, and I'll be willing to write a review


and yeah we're not arguing. its more just discussing our point of view. i see and understand yours, hopefully you see my point of view. For a <500hp car, a $250 fuel pump just seems a bit high? I dunno, I'm new to ls1's
Old Jun 3, 2005 | 05:13 PM
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price out a stock fuel pump assembly My 1998 car lists for $680.

While its no mustang, where you can buy a focus pump, canister, and everything for $100 and keep the factory functionality. The racetronix setup is well worth the money, the 98 unit I have is very well thought out and worth the peace of mind for the $300. But then again, my fuel system is going to be overkill, since I understand, lean = boom = expensive. I would rather have a $600 fuel system, and reliable, than a new motor because I was cheap, and a rubber hose failed under boost.

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I would prefer a racetronix becaus its a direct bolt in, where with other pumps you have to modify a little bit. But at the moment im doing a TON of other things to my car and dont have the extra $150. I know a handfull of LS1 owners with holly and walbro pumps and they work fine with no issues. If racetronix wants to give a good discount on one i may jump on it as id prefer a racetronix pump. otherwise I have no choice but to get holly or walbro.

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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by MakoLS1
I would prefer a racetronix becaus its a direct bolt in, where with other pumps you have to modify a little bit. But at the moment im doing a TON of other things to my car and dont have the extra $150. I know a handfull of LS1 owners with holly and walbro pumps and they work fine with no issues. If racetronix wants to give a good discount on one i may jump on it as id prefer a racetronix pump. otherwise I have no choice but to get holly or walbro.
A weak fuel system is like having a house built on a weak foundation. The oiling, fuel and cooling system should be considered top priority in a HP car before building HP. Relative to pretty much every other HP part a Racetronix fuel system @ $250.00 is one of the least expensive upgrades one would have to consider.

We may consider selling the FPA separate from the upgrade harness but it would degrade the FPA's performance.
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youll be fine with the walbro...trust me. i have the same setup and it works just as well as my stock one....they are right about cutting the hole in the bottom. its simple though....you just need a hole big enough that the pump can drop through it so the filter can sit on the bottom of the tank...there will be absolutly no difference between the racetronix and walbro as of performance after doing this....and as of the trap door....i would go for that option...removing the exhaust, dropping a swaybar and heatsheild, then the tank is a lot more work than its worth....wish i would have know about the door before i started the install...
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by fletchls1
youll be fine with the walbro...trust me. i have the same setup and it works just as well as my stock one....they are right about cutting the hole in the bottom. its simple though....you just need a hole big enough that the pump can drop through it so the filter can sit on the bottom of the tank...there will be absolutly no difference between the racetronix and walbro as of performance after doing this....and as of the trap door....i would go for that option...removing the exhaust, dropping a swaybar and heatsheild, then the tank is a lot more work than its worth....wish i would have know about the door before i started the install...
PM me with any questions you have on it...it is still fresh in my head

cool thanks man. hopefully I'll get started on it this weekend. I'm thinking about taking the tank out this week, so when it shows up by the weekend (hopefully) I can just get right at it. I'm **** about keeping my car clean, so I rather not cut a big hole in it. i'll just do the drop.

are there any torque specs for the swaybar? or just tight as hell? lol

I'll be sending you a pm with questions i'm sure
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Originally Posted by fletchls1
youll be fine with the walbro...trust me. i have the same setup and it works just as well as my stock one....they are right about cutting the hole in the bottom. its simple though....you just need a hole big enough that the pump can drop through it so the filter can sit on the bottom of the tank...there will be absolutly no difference between the racetronix and walbro as of performance after doing this....and as of the trap door....i would go for that option...removing the exhaust, dropping a swaybar and heatsheild, then the tank is a lot more work than its worth....wish i would have know about the door before i started the install...
PM me with any questions you have on it...it is still fresh in my head
The performance will not be the same and the functionality is different. That is the real truth of the matter. Do a search on this forum and you will find people talking about aerating their fuel under acceleration or cornering when running low tank levels. If this person has crap in his tank and it pukes his pump prematurely are you going to buy him a new pump because he did not flush his tank?
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 12:26 PM
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$85 bucks for a fuel pump, I can buy a few and still be under the $250....
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Originally Posted by MetallicaMatt
$85 bucks for a fuel pump, I can buy a few and still be under the $250....
If there is crap in your tank you had best have spares handy... gearotor pumps do not tolerate rust and sediment as well as factory vane pumps.
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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20k miles on my car, she should be pretty clean, plus i'm droping the tank, i'll beable to see
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Originally Posted by Racetronix
If there is crap in your tank you had best have spares handy... gearotor pumps do not tolerate rust and sediment as well as factory vane pumps.

Instead of arguring read my thread or my 5th email to you guys. I want to buy your products but you cant even post in my thread. And I have seen plenty of people do what you are doing Matt. And it works just fine.
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I've already bought a Walbro 255 pump(uninstalled) before knowing anything about what was required to install it since you use Walbro pumps is there a kit that can be purchased to upgrade the pump that I have. I read you '99-'02 F-LS1 write-up but maybe I didn't catch everything in it, but most other pumps have to drill a hole in the bucket to fit the pump in but racetronix doen't. Is that to fit the pump in or to keep the bucket filled?

"The Racetronix pump assembly is designed to fit in the factory pump location. The Racetronix pump is equipped with a factory type fuel tube not a rubber hose. This fuel tube is important as when the fuel module is placed back in the tank it must bend sharply which can cause standard rubber hose to kink. This fuel tube is much more resistant to the solvents in today’s gas and it will not crack, split, swell and collapse like a rubber hose. This is why G.M. uses them as OE equipment.

The Racetronix pump assembly is equipped with an outlet which supplies the factory venturi system which is required to keep the factory system functional! All other pump solutions to date do not have this feature which requires a hole be punched in the bottom of the fill-bucket thereby dangerously disabling its functionality.

The Racetronix fuel module is equipped with a one-piece soldered wiring harness made from mil spec. Teflon silver-plated wire. This is the same type of wire used at the factory as Teflon is the most resistant to deterioration when exposed to gas. This harness has a Walbro connector at one end and a GM F-LS1 connector at the other which plugs directly inside the factory connector. No crimping, splicing or wiring adapters are required. A truly plug & play wiring solution. Due to the age of some F-LS1 cars much of the in-tank connectors are black / corroded. The Racetronix harness replaces all these questionable components."

So the tube, outlet, and the wiring harness is the difference from the walbro? Those are all good ideas and I would like to keep the functionality of my fuel system but I don't want to buy another pump if I don't have to. Again I ask, is there not a kit that you can sell that I can upgrade my pump(uninstalled) so I won't be out of anymore money.
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[QUOTE=1ORANGEWS6]I've already bought a Walbro 255 pump(uninstalled) before knowing anything about what was required to install it since you use Walbro pumps is there a kit that can be purchased to upgrade the pump that I have. I read you '99-'02 F-LS1 write-up but maybe I didn't catch everything in it, but most other pumps have to drill a hole in the bucket to fit the pump in but racetronix doen't. Is that to fit the pump in or to keep the bucket filled?[QUOTE]

The pump you have can not be adapted/upgraded. People drill holes in their buckets because the venturi system no longer functions with other pumps. The venturi system keeps the bucket filled.
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Originally Posted by JMBLOWNWS6
Instead of arguring read my thread or my 5th email to you guys. I want to buy your products but you cant even post in my thread. And I have seen plenty of people do what you are doing Matt. And it works just fine.
****, ask ol aruging Jack to build you a dual intank set up, he'll say oh we sent out the email....too bad you didn't get it, check with your email provider as to why...

I've always recieved my email, Racetronix just failed to send one to me. I asked Jack to resend(how hard could it be?? ) Never happened, no email from racetronix....ol jack here just took the time to post up again and again that he sent one to me...instead of just sending an email.

I went ahead and did my own dual intank set up, is it better than racetronix's dual set up? We will never know because they don't want to sell any to the public

Thanks Racetronix, I'm sorry I bought your 98 plug and play set up...I shouldn't have supported a company that fails to support a customer that wanted to be a return customer.

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This has nothing to do with your F98 system so there is NO support issue here ... just your frustration in not being able to get a custom built-to-order item. We publicly state on the forums that we build them if and when we have the time. Being peak season now we do not have the time as regular production items take priority. It is good that you built your own DP because we would not have been able to deal with the communications issue and your timeline requirements.

All advertised product is in-stock and shipping on a regular basis. Support is provided via your dealer and our support dept.
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Originally Posted by JMBLOWNWS6
Instead of arguring read my thread or my 5th email to you guys. I want to buy your products but you cant even post in my thread.
LS1TECH is not the official Racetronix Q&A / support forum.
If you need quick answers about product call your local Racetronix dealer listed on our web page.
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Many positive testimonials support the Racetronic plug and play system. It's a trick piece that's worth the $. Try Thunder or More for their custom set-up....or the others listed on the Racetronic page. Cheers guys.




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