Any other pump options besides walbro
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Any other pump options besides walbro Due to all the horror stories with walbros failing, I was wondering what would be another good choice for a fuel pump? Why do you think everyone is having all these issues with their walbros? Is it a quality issue or the user themselves? The only thing I can think of if it isnt quality control, would be the pump overheating due to not having enough fuel in the tank to cool it down. Thanks in advance.
Are Racetronix actually Walbro? I've been looking at either Racetronix or the fuel pump that Full Throttle Speed sells. I'm getting ready to install a healthy cam and a TNT kit on my car and fuel system upgrades are a defnite. I'll be watching this thread for sure.
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Originally Posted by Stanknuglet
Due to all the horror stories with walbros failing, I was wondering what would be another good choice for a fuel pump? Why do you think everyone is having all these issues with their walbros? Is it a quality issue or the user themselves? The only thing I can think of if it isnt quality control, would be the pump overheating due to not having enough fuel in the tank to cool it down. Thanks in advance.
Racetronix systems are proven and relaible when installed and maintained properly.
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TREperformance pparently tests all their pumps and have recently started selling their pumps online on ebay. wether their claims are true to be more quiet and performe in a similar maner hen the walboro then maybe these will sell like hot cakes but I personally dont know a thing about the company or their product so i cant say either way sorry but its another choice.
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Originally Posted by bifster
TREperformance pparently tests all their pumps and have recently started selling their pumps online on ebay. wether their claims are true to be more quiet and performe in a similar maner hen the walboro then maybe these will sell like hot cakes but I personally dont know a thing about the company or their product so i cant say either way sorry but its another choice.
- They draw more current at the same given operating pressure as a Walbro.
- They have widely varying performance / output which rarely perform as well as a Walbro 255L/Hr pump.
- Many of them leak or have defective check and bypass valves.
- They heat the fuel more and drop more volume at higher pressures.
- The motor brushes and armature have a much shorter life span.
- Most of the install kits bundled with their pumps are generic in nature / not direct-fit PnP.
- Their filter socks turn hard like cardboard over time and do not like certain race fuels.
The cost on a Chinese pump is apx. 1/4 the cost of a USA made Walbro so even if 50% of them fail over time one stands to make more $ than selling Walbros. The question is at what are the long term costs.
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There are also China pumps branded as genuine walbro. That is the real issue. You buy from a reputable vendor like racetronix or fullthrottle. You get a good pump and if it is a few more bucks, just realize that cost is assuring you dont get a piece of crap and you get service IF there is an issue.
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Brett Foote Well, there is, but how are you going to prove you installed it and maintained it exactly as they say you should? It's kind of like an engine warranty. It's a huge hassle of proving that it's the actual builder/manufacturer's fault most of the time.
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Some of these comments make me feel a little better. I was unaware that there were those chinese pumps out there. Thats probably where the problems come in. Im just trying to be an educated consumer so I dont waste money I dont really have in the first place. Thanks for your replies, you guys have been more than helpful!
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well i suppose but wow im glad a company has a product we are using that is so tempermental ... cant they make them so its a little more reliable? I just find it a litte frustrating that you cant run your vehicle more then 1/4 empty without voiding a warranty on a pump. cant they built a little more user friendly version?
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Originally Posted by bifster
well i suppose but wow im glad a company has a product we are using that is so tempermental ... cant they make them so its a little more reliable? I just find it a litte frustrating that you cant run your vehicle more then 1/4 empty without voiding a warranty on a pump. cant they built a little more user friendly version?
Most people would not pay a premium price for a goof-proof pump. It is good common sense not to run your tank to empty all the time esp. under heavy acceleration.
FYI Walbro killed their HP pump warranty in March 2004.
Many large companies who manufacture/distribute HP fuel/electronic items do not offer any warranty for many of the same reasons as Walbro.
Look on page 1 of MSD's Fuel Management catalog here for example:
http://www.msdignition.com/pdf_catal...nt_162-173.pdf
Here is another vendor stating the same thing about Walbro pumps:
http://www.autoperformanceengineerin.../policies.html
As margins shrink on product the room for manufacturers to absorb false warranty claims becomes hard if not impossible.
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I might have to buy that for a backup then! 
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Originally Posted by 1QUIKWS6
The Full Throttle & Racetronix pump are both the same Walbro pump. Racetronix adds an aluminum sleeve to their pumps to make it fit better (stock pump is larger OD than Walbro).
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The recent knockoff of the Racetronix pump assembly uses a foam rubber sleeve instead of an aluminum sleeve for fitment. This foam rubber sleeve will shrink and deteriorate in today's pump gas which contains alcohol and other aggressive solvents. Some types of unleaded race gas will accelerate the deterioration. Over time this can lead to lose pump fitment and possible pump failure. This is why all newer cars like the LS1 F-Body have fuel systems which do not have any rubber in them from the factory. This is just one of the few features Racetronix engineered into our product which is overlooked in copycat products. Racetronix has manufactured over 5000 LS1 f-body fuel systems to date. Many of these fuel systems are well into their fifth year in daily driven cars and still running strong.
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well it loks like that racetronix pump and wirring kit for 250 is the deal to go with seeing as how it hold the factory venturi set up to fill the bucket and such things to help prevent any problems, unfortunately it will only support a claimed 600 whp but thats enough for alot of guys and it give security to some degree I suppose.
