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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 02:03 PM
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Braided stainless is so expensive as we all know, as are the fittings. Are there any good alternatives that are cheaper and nhra legal? I know hard line, but is there anything that is flexible as well?

I also hear you get a bad gas smell through the braided stainless.
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 03:49 PM
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We use pushloc style hose that is black and alot cheaper than SS

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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 04:02 PM
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how about coated ss lines you wont get smells through that.
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im thinking about using hardline for the majority of it and then ss near the engine and the fuel tank.

nasty I sent you a pm, where do you get the pushloc stuff?
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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Pushlok stuff here too. I love the stuff!

I plannaed on running hardline through most of my build till I read that the hardline is a little smaller ID than the flexible lines. Not a huge deal by any means but it made me think and Im just using black aeroquip socketless.

One other thing though, I have heard people complain of gas smell with all braided lines.
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 06:13 PM
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is aluminum hard line fine? i just plan on using it along the frame rail in my rx7. I will use braided from the engine to the frame rail and from the frame to the fuel pump
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also is the aeroquip socketless line nhra legal? i know nhra frowns on rubber lines
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by striker754
also is the aeroquip socketless line nhra legal? i know nhra frowns on rubber lines
Good Question..... Curios to find out.
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 10:48 PM
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hmm fully braided costs about the same as hard line/braided. teflon lined stuff is only 71 dollars more for return and feed line. ill probably get teflon so no smell
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 11:15 PM
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I got an email notification that someone posted that teflon lined hoses need crimped on connectors?
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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 11:36 PM
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If your going with -8AN(1/2") or smaller, you can hit up www.harrisspeedworks.com They are a sponsor that mostly deals with nitrous stuff, but they will put together custom length -3, -4, -6, and -8 lines. I'm pretty sure they are teflon lined, it says on the site they are rated for fuel, and the nitrous lines that they made for me appear to be teflon. You can also get the lines with a pvc coating on the outside, so they are smooth to the touch and won't tear apart anything they rub on.

Right now I'm running the stock 5/16" hardlines in my rx7 with regular -6 braided lines for connections at the engine. Haven't had any fueling problems yet, but I plan to get an aftermarket FPR and mount it in the back and just run a single -8 hardline under the car. I might use a few unions so the line can come apart at a few places, and make it easier to bend/run, but I don't plan on using many SS braided sections if I can avoid it.

Hard line with tube nuts and sleeves are pretty cheap, and a 37* flare tool isn't too expensive either. I was thinking about getting the $30 tool from summit...seeing as making single flares in aluminum tubing shouldn't take much.

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Old Aug 27, 2007 | 11:52 PM
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stock rx7 lines wont support a t76 i dont think

harris seems to have good prices for just the hose. i'll have to call them tomorrow.
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Any info on the pushloc hose being legal?
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 04:24 PM
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Just got off the phone with NHRA tech dept. Pushloc hose is legal.
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 09:52 PM
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I posted/deleted concerning teflon lines last night because I misread the post. True Teflon lines similar to brake & nitrous lines require crimp on connectors in the larger sizes. This can be a pain because you have to install & trim the hoses to fit, align the fittings, then remove & take the hose to have ends crimped on. Also most of these fittings are zinc plated steel because they are generally used for very high pressures. The nice looking anodized aluminum fittings are often not available for this application.

Teflon lined hoses on the other hand, as mentioned in an above post, do not necessarily have to be crimp type because they are essentially the braided rubber hose with an internal teflon liner.
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