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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 02:06 PM
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i am looking into getting a moser 12 bolt, i might get a really good deal on it and i was wondering what the max rwhp they can handle safely before they break.
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 02:19 PM
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Max Breaking Power is a relative term. Is the car an Auto or Stick. Street car or Drag car.


The problems with 12 bolts are mostly just noisey gears after several hard launches.
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Originally Posted by JohnWaynesZ28
Max Breaking Power is a relative term. Is the car an Auto or Stick. Street car or Drag car.


The problems with 12 bolts are mostly just noisey gears after several hard launches.
its a stick car and i mostly run it on the street but i do go up to the track about 10 times a year. the 12 bolt im looking at has 5k miles on it.
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I would say from expereince, if you are under 475 or so you will be ok, if you are on a slick maybe a little less. It will also depend on the gear and the differential itself. If it is spool it will be stronger. If it is a posi, the Eaton HD will likely be the strongest, not sure if there is a Wavetac or S Trak for the 12 bolt yet.

I have one that held 520rwhp, but it did break 3 times. It also did several 1.4s 60fts. That said it is for sale and I have ordered a MWC 9" since the motor is making over 700 fwhp now.

Good luck!
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I would say from expereince, if you are under 475 or so you will be ok, if you are on a slick maybe a little less. It will also depend on the gear and the differential itself. If it is spool it will be stronger. If it is a posi, the Eaton HD will likely be the strongest, not sure if there is a Wavetac or S Trak for the 12 bolt yet.

I have one that held 520rwhp, but it did break 3 times. It also did several 1.4s 60fts. That said it is for sale and I have ordered a MWC 9" since the motor is making over 700 fwhp now.

Good luck!

thanks a lot! i think it has 33 spline axles im not sure on the diff but it is a 3.73 gear.
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thanks a lot! i think it has 33 spline axles im not sure on the diff but it is a 3.73 gear.
33s are good, that is what I have, I did twist them once, had them replaced.

3.73s are good too, the lower the ratio thicker the teeth. The ones I broke were 4.11s. I have 3.73s now with no issues.
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Originally Posted by RAMPANT
33s are good, that is what I have, I did twist them once, had them replaced.

3.73s are good too, the lower the ratio thicker the teeth. The ones I broke were 4.11s. I have 3.73s now with no issues.
okay. thanks a lot for your help.
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The spider gears will give up with a stick and slicks.

Put an adjustable clutch in it.
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Originally Posted by ponjohn
The spider gears will give up with a stick and slicks.

Put an adjustable clutch in it.
okay, my goal is to not brake it on the street.
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Im putting down 780 rwhp with my Moser 12 bolt. Its a whiney bitch tho going down the hwy but its held at the track with several 6k dumps.
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Im putting down 780 rwhp with my Moser 12 bolt. Its a whiney bitch tho going down the hwy but its held at the track with several 6k dumps.
wow, really? thats awesome, what gear is in it? also what kind of tire?
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Old Aug 6, 2011 | 02:00 PM
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My car is at 510rwhp/516rwtq. Original Moser 4.11's never broke, but after a track day with some slicks, they whined like crazy. So loud on the freeway, was pretty hard to talk to a passenger. Took em out and they look just fine, all tolerances were good. Dont know what the cause for the noise was. Replaced them with Richmond 4.10's. No problems now, but I havent been back to the 1/4 mile since. I have been to auto X events and beat on it around Road America though, still ok.
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My friend has the Moser with GM gears. NO whine, no break, 9 second car. I have a Moser, richmond gears, howls like there is a full moon out. It howled plenty before I dropped the clutch multiple times at 5k at the track. That was with a full bolt on LT1 that dynoed 276rwhp.
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Originally Posted by NV Z 28
wow, really? thats awesome, what gear is in it? also what kind of tire?
Yes sir. Im running 3:73 gears in it with a MT ET Drag.
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I have probably close to 1500 hp through mine, no problems.
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A 12 bolt will be fine for heads/cam street/strip applications and will be slightly more efficient than a 9". If I were to build an all out car, a 9" might be on the list.
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rampant how much do u want for your 12 bolt?
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