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Old Mar 10, 2002 | 08:21 AM
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I am sorry to ask more questions about a 12 bolt but plan on ordering mine tuesday. most likely from thunder racing since they can have the moser's sent out within 2-3 days.

I don't want to send in my brake backing plates!

will they need modified to go on the axles?
will I simply slide my backing plates onto the moser 33 spline axles and then have the bearing pressed on the axle. Then slide the axle in???

what holds the axles in?

does sliding the axles in interfere with the posi unit/gears? the gears will already be in and set up with the Ta girdle on right?

THANKS!
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Old Mar 10, 2002 | 09:34 AM
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I sent you an email a few minutes ago, here goes... <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">

> Do I need to modify my brake backing plates?

No.

> How do I know if I have 3 or 4 channel abs? I do have traction control
> if it matters.

If you have traction control, you have 4-channel ABS. I do not have traction control; I have 3-channel.

> will I simply get a completely assembled rear end with the exception
> of the axles needing put it?

Yes. You'll probably want to paint it, and there are a few pieces you'll need. It comes unpainted and bare metal. I used Chassiscote Black from
http://www.por-15.com - but I happened to have the can 'laying around' from another project. Also, you'll need about 3-4' of 3/8" fuel hose, 2
3" muffler clamps (for mounting the swaybar), and 8 3/8 x 24 (or maybe 28?) fine thread nuts, with lock washers - for holding on the backing
plates. A tube of Loctite Blue or Red would come in handy for these nuts too, you don't want the backing plate coming loose on you. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0"> Now's a
good time to replace your rear swaybar bushings with poly (both bushings & endlinks).

> then slide my brake backing plates onto
> the axles then the bearings, then have the bearings pressed on, slide
> in the axles? what holds the axles in?

Yep, you got it. Backing plates, bearings, press 'em on, slide 'em in. The backing plates hold the axles in.

You'll need to disassemble your stock rear end to get the backing plates off. Open the pumpkin, spin the wheels until you see the small 8mm (or
10mm, I don't remember) bolt that holds the big pin in the posi in place. Once you pull the big pin out (it's about 3/4" diameter, can't really miss it), push in on the axles slightly and you can grab the C-clips and wiggle them out. Once the C-clip is out, you can pull the axle straight out. Then detach the backing plate, clean it off with brake cleaner, and you're good to go.

And as for the Moser when it arrives, the rear cover will be on, but it will be loose, and you'll need to take it off anyway. Also, the gears will be set up already, I didn't touch my gears/posi unit. My gears do whine a little at ~55-70 mph.

FWIW, mine was the first I'd ever done, and it wasn't that hard at all, just a fair amount of work. I'm loving it...

-Andrew
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Old Mar 10, 2002 | 10:05 AM
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Yeah, i'd say he covered just about everything. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> Just make sure you toruqe everything with the suspension loaded. When we did mine (and a buddys) car it took us a while to figure out why our suspension was acting screwy. <img src="gr_emb.gif" border="0">

You're probably going to need to do a very small amount of grinding on your T/A cover. Its rubbing my swaybar a little.

BTW, my gears only have a slight whine. Not objectionable. Just make sure you do a proper breakin procedure, 'cause my buddys whines alot worse, right Rutan? <img src="gr_tounge.gif" border="0">
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Old Mar 10, 2002 | 11:11 AM
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wow thank you very much for answering all my questions!

why will the ta cover be loose, do I need to do something inside the pumpkin? or is it just so I can see the axles slide in the pumpkin?

THANKS!!!!!!!
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