I've been going crazy to get the necessary 150 miles on the converter before abusing it. It has to have a break-in period for the aggressive clutch material that's used in it. After putting the last miles on it tonight, I finally got to try it out. All I can say is that I would've been well into the 11's with this converter had I gone with it originally! The 2nd and 3rd gear charge is totally unreal over the Vig 3200. With the 3.73's, the RPM's drop to 5,600 on the shifts. You wanna talk about keeping an engine in its power band! I can't wait to try this converter out at the track. It ought to launch really nice. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
As for the streetability in comparison to the Vig 3200, as expected, it's quite a bit "mushier". With normal driving, the RPM's stay around 2,500 or so, and it's not too uncommon to see 2,800 or so if you give it some more gas in 3rd gear until the converter locks up. Ed Wright's tuning makes this converter plenty streetable IMO. He set converter lockup at 30 MPH if the shifter is in 3rd and 39-40 MPH if it's in OD. The converter is about as loose as I would personally want on the street, and it's a very nice pairing with my 3.73's. I don't know if I would like it as much with 3.23's. The streetability of a converter is purely subjective, though. While this converter is looser than what I had in the car previously, it's nothing that annoys me by ANY means. I really enjoy the converter, and from a roll it's LETHAL! If I had only gone with this converter originally, I really feel that I would've clicked off some 11.8's or so instead of my 12.0's. Hey, that's how it goes. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> When I first bought the car, I wasn't looking for too much stall; now I am. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
If any of you guys are considering upgrading to the Yank Pro Thruster 4400 for track use, then quit thinking about it and take the plunge! This converter is an all-out performer. It's going to work GREAT with my XE-R 224 cam. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

<small>[ April 02, 2002, 10:32 PM: Message edited by: Trevor D ]</small>

 

Congrats on your verter. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Did you get Ed Wright to program your pcm after you switched converters? Or did you have that program from your previous converter?
Did you have to tell him to program that in (lockup)? The reason why I'm asking is I'm gonna have him program my pcm after I get this G5 cam in.

 

No, this is the same tuning that I had with the Vig 3200. He automatically programmed in the earlier lockup points. I never mentioned it, but it sure is nice. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> So when does the G5 go in? My XE-R goes in on Thursday. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

 

Hehe cool. Its gonna be good seeing your results and comparing them with mine since we run similar times with bolt ons. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

I'm putting it in myself and I have been working on it since Sunday. Hopefully will have it finished by this weekend. This is my first time doing so it'll take a while. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

 

You can' beat the PT4400's. You will be in the 11's easy.

Good luck <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Trevor D:
<strong>I've been going crazy to get the necessary 150 miles on the converter before abusing it. It has to have a break-in period for the aggressive clutch material that's used in it. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Just wonder: Is this 150 mile break-in period really a must? I've never heard of such break-in is required.
When I had my new YTP4200E in, I didn't wait 150 miles b4 going WOT on it.
Just wondering what damage I might have caused...

 

i need to drive a car with the 4400 and see how it feels compared to the vig3600.. i dont know if its worth a extra tenth or so for me to switch...

 

I don't notice the 4400 in daly driving anymore,got used to it.LOL

You are going to kick butt when track times come,the PT4400 hits hard.I predict all new best everthing for your car.

 

What RPM are you dropping to on your 1-2?

Thanks!

Mark

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Trevor D:
<strong>With the 3.73's, the RPM's drop to 5,600 on the shifts. You wanna talk about keeping an engine in its power band!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This applies for the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts.

Loco - I'm heading to Lubbock for my cam install. Joseph is doing the install, and I'm helping/taking notes. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> I would feel better if I see it done start to finish before I attempt it by myself. You never know when I might want to swap cams again. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> I'm very interested to see how our results compare, too. Where are you looking to shift with the G5?

Sonny - There was a printout of the exact break-in procedure included in the box with the converter. You may not have needed to break yours in since it's possible that he used a different clutch material in your converter. If it makes you feel better, just give Mike a call, and he'll be able to answer your question.

jfm - Yeah, I'll get used to it before too long. It was the same way with the Vig 3200. It won't be long before I don't notice it anymore either.

 

Kick *** Trevor. Now you got me thinking about taking the plunge again! I was seriously thinking about going with the Super Thruster 3800, but I might be leaning toward the PT4400...the devil is calling me. <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />

 

"DAYUM!" -- so you like my word, eh? Or maybe it's the converter?!

You are absolutely dead-on with your evaluation of the converter. From a roll, simply awesome. From a dead stop, the daily driver 17" Firestones are toast. Tolerable as a daily driver (going up a steep hill--something we do here in Little Rock--at 20-30 is interesting).

I'm taking mine to the track this Saturday night. Should be fun with ET Streets.

I read another post where Mike was changing clutch composition in the super thrusters -- maybe he changed the PT's too? Mine did not have breakin instructions.

I think I'm going to call Ed Wright today and get him to give me a PCM with a copy of the specs he set up for you and John.

Loco, keep at it with the install. I installed my PT4000 a couple of weeks ago. My first one too. E-mail me if I can be of any help.

 

Good to hear Trevor!!! That is awesome... When are you leaving to come down here?? you driving the car or hauling it?? hopefully in about 2 weeks the heads/cam will be going in my car. If joseph is putting the cam in thursday i may have to swing out and see how things are going!!! give me a call or something when you get into town!! l8r

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Trevor D:
<strong>If any of you guys are considering upgrading to the Yank Pro Thruster 4400 for track use, then quit thinking about it and take the plunge! This converter is an all-out performer. It's going to work GREAT with my XE-R 224 cam. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thats a powerful combo you got working there. the TP440 and the C2 cam's powerband will work GREAT together. Good luck. i hope you have the tires to get the most out of that new 'verter.
Congrats again.
Keep us posted on the track results.

 

Trevor, I agree with your assessment. Loose but livable with 3.73s. Power from a roll is amazing <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

As far as break-in goes, guys were putting the converter and jumping on it right out the door from the tranny shop and not giving the clutch surfaces a chance to seat-in. Kinda like putting on new rotors, punching the car to 110 and jamming on the brakes.

HD: I have a 4200 in my car. You can try it Saturday if you come to MIR.

Patrick: You need to test the ST4000. Besides on 150 shot the YTP 4400 isn't what you want. <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />

 

Joel, you're right. I keep forgetting about that scuba tank in my trunk filled with NAWSSSS. I will take a little time to decide if I want the ST3800 or the ST4000.

Patrick

 

Patrick - LMAO! As you know, you'll have a blast w/ the PT4400, but I wouldn't want to attempt to spray a car w/ this converter! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />

Pat - Yeah, I thought your word summed it up best. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> The converter is flat-out amazing. I know what ya mean about going up a hill at 20-30. I did this last night getting onto the interstate. I just apply light throttle and wait for the converter to lockup. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> Definitely let me know how you do this weekend. It will be a week or two before I can make it to the track.

Tommy - All I can say is Friday night ought to be fun. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

John - I'm going to name the cam the ERADICATOR. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> I'm thinking it should be appropriate. hehe I'm running 9" Hoosier slicks at the track, but I do have the adjustable Hal struts. They made a huge difference in how the car leaves, so I don't expect to have any traction problems at a decent track like TX Motorplex. I'm definitely anxious to see how it works together.

Joel - That makes sense on the break-in for the converters. I gave mine ~85 miles of all in-town driving, and then I mixed in some highway mileage last night. My first time to stomp on it was at 60 MPH, and I was grinning from ear to ear! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

 

Mods are listed in sig with the exception of 3:73 gears. I am switching from a SY3500 to the PT4400 before this weekend. I only cut 1.75 60' on the SY3500 it was hooking, it just didn't launch hard at all. I run 26x11.5x16 ET Streets. Will they be able to cut a good 60' with this converter you think? I am installing SFC's, LCA's w/ relocating brackets, and the converter too. I ran 11.70@116.23 for my best pass yet, but I've trapped better just not on that pass. Any predictions for this weekend as I am so anxious to get this converter. Congrats Trevor I'm sure you're as happy as can be about right now. I know I can't wait, I'm a little scared about the daily driving part, my car is my only car and I put about 500 miles on it per week. Anyway a cam change is comming in the near future as soon as my car does something to impress me. Thanks and again congrats Trevor.

 

Brian,

It's good to hear from ya! It's going to be a night and day difference going from the SY3500 to the PT4400. The hit off of the line is going to be a LOT harder. You should drop a solid .15 off of your 60' just with the converter swap, maybe more. I guess we'll find out soon enough. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> The LCA relocation brackets will help out with traction. I know that they made a nice difference on my car. The SFC's are a smart move, too. I think you should have a good chance of hooking w/ your ET Streets at Beech Bend. I was impressed with the track at the NFRA event. John Lamb was cutting 1.61 60' times w/ ET Streets that day, so I think you'll be able to hook it up with a good track prep. You might consider slicks later on down the road, though. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> The PT4400 will be loose w/ the 3.23's, but it's subjective as to if it's tolerable or not. You will eventually get used to it.
Let us know how everything goes for you. I'm very interested in seeing your results!

 

Trevor - CAN I DRIVE YOU CAR? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> I've got my PI3200 sold if I want, but would like to know what I'm getting myself in to... Remember, my car is a grocery getter. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

You goin to Ennis Friday night?