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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 07:24 PM
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Whats the purpose of the passenger side axle being bigger than the driver side...besides they dont want it to break. Is it under more stress?
Don't remember the exact details, but something about harmonics.
GM engineers figured out that if they ran 2 different diameters, a failure was less likely.
I THINK they first implemented it with the CTS-V and then as original equipment for the ZR1.
Other carmakers pull all kinds of torque-mitigating tricks to eliminate axle tramp, but GM's performance division got to the root of the problem. Besides using a cast-iron diff casing, upsizing the propshaft, and reducing driveline lash with CV joints, GM also found a way to defeat the phenomenon itself. A slipping wheel will wind up its half shaft until the wheel hooks up, at which point it sends that force back through the shaft to the opposite side, setting up a spring-like effect through the axle. GM unbalanced the half shafts (the left side's diameter is 55 mm, the right side's is 35 mm) to decouple the forces and eliminate the spring effect. The result is a car that launches like the space shuttle. Power has nowhere to go but down to the ground.
To further mitigate power hop, Chevy has also fitted the ZR1 with axle half-shafts of different diameters (33mm on the right and 40mm on the left).
The rear axle also is stronger in the Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 and features asymmetrical axle-shaft diameters that were developed after careful testing to provide optimal torque management. The axles are also mounted on a more horizontal plane that correlates with the wider width of the rear wheels and tires.

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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 07:32 PM
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GM engineers figured out that if they ran 2 different diameters, a failure was less likely

Glad to see its working. LOL.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by turboed2000
I have a 2SS stick shift with 700 miles on it. I broke the right axle at the out tripod. Not sure what happened, there wasn't any wheel hope and it was at the top of 2nd when it let loose.

is this right? you have a H/C nitrous setup on your new camaro? could be why youre breaking stuff.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 09:47 PM
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Thanks for the info on how to post pics. I will post some as soon as we put it on the lift to pull it apart. I spend more time modding my cars than messing on the computer.

As fare as the Last comment It is heads cam nitrous but all of my other cars make alot more power and didnt break in 700 miles with my wife driving. Chevy has always used weak drivetrain. My Cobra made 780 rwhp and isnt the lightest car on earth and the irs managed to live for 2 years. Its not a big deal found a better part and will fix it when they show up.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by turboed2000
Thanks for the info on how to post pics. I will post some as soon as we put it on the lift to pull it apart. I spend more time modding my cars than messing on the computer.

As fare as the Last comment It is heads cam nitrous but all of my other cars make alot more power and didnt break in 700 miles with my wife driving. Chevy has always used weak drivetrain. My Cobra made 780 rwhp and isnt the lightest car on earth and the irs managed to live for 2 years. Its not a big deal found a better part and will fix it when they show up.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Hendrix-Engineering
Any updates
+1 Determining modes of failure gets me all excited.
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Old Aug 9, 2009 | 05:58 PM
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Here are some pics of the broken parts and the new stuff that looks awsome.
Attached Thumbnails Broken Axle-axle1.jpg   Broken Axle-axle.jpg   Broken Axle-axle2.jpg   Broken Axle-axle3.jpg   Broken Axle-axle4.jpg  

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Old Aug 9, 2009 | 09:17 PM
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Interesting, it looks like the cv joint itself is the weakest link. The aftermarket setup looks to be bigger all around, I guess you wont be having any more problems in that area. Thanks for posting the pics.
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Old Aug 9, 2009 | 11:26 PM
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Sounds like GM rears still SUCK.
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 02:13 PM
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That aftermarket axle set looks to be one sweet piece.
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 2002_Z28_Six_Speed
That aftermarket axle set looks to be one sweet piece.
Thank you!
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Old Sep 1, 2009 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by rayhawk
Interesting, it looks like the cv joint itself is the weakest link. The aftermarket setup looks to be bigger all around, I guess you wont be having any more problems in that area. Thanks for posting the pics.
Yes ,every aspect is redesighned and built to handle 1000 hp,if we can help feel free to give us a call.
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 09:47 PM
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axles in stock ready to ship
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 10:16 PM
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A little off topic but it looks like GM failed again. How can they produce a performance car with parts that can't hold up.
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mrhzk35404
A little off topic but it looks like GM failed again. How can they produce a performance car with parts that can't hold up.
Some cars are holding up just fine. OrangeChevyII has been in the sub 1.6 60's for 15+ passes without a problem. That car has made 40+ passes with drag radials on it.
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ss1129
GM engineers figured out that if they ran 2 different diameters, a failure was less likely

Glad to see its working. LOL.
Haha, on cars with not even 1k on the odometer.
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Sam88Gta1
Some cars are holding up just fine. OrangeChevyII has been in the sub 1.6 60's for 15+ passes without a problem. That car has made 40+ passes with drag radials on it.
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 04:33 PM
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We'll have our race half shafts out soon as well.

We shooting to debut them at the LSx Shootout.

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Originally Posted by Hendrix-Engineering
Auto?
M6 car.
It chirps the 315 30 18 MT dragradials on the 1-2 ,2-3 and 3-4 shifts. I am not in any way saying they are built to handle this kind of force applied to them but they are working out great so far. After the cam and standalone fuel cell were added this week the car shouldnt have a problem running 10.5's @ 135 ish this weekend on the same 150 pills.
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Originally Posted by Sam88Gta1
M6 car.
It chirps the 315 30 18 MT dragradials on the 1-2 ,2-3 and 3-4 shifts. I am not in any way saying they are built to handle this kind of force applied to them but they are working out great so far. After the cam and standalone fuel cell were added this week the car shouldnt have a problem running 10.5's @ 135 ish this weekend on the same 150 pills.
Sounds like a hell of a car!Ill keep my fingers crossed for ya,LOL..If you need us give us a call we have a special lsx shoot out price on our pro level axles!
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