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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 06:56 PM
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Might be a repost, but i thought I would post it anyway

I myself like the idea, but I dont think it will come of anything.
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 09:25 AM
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8.3 litres, happy days!!! Still rather have a diesel though!!!

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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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holy crap...i remember when 500hp was unheard for a stock car. with motors like this, 1000hp seems possible within a few years. id love to see this in the camaro but, dosnt really matter for me anyway. i doubt ill be able to afford a charged ls9. as long as i can get a ls7 ill be a happy camper. although, i suppose i could live at home for a year after i graduate to save up enough cash.


make us happy GM.
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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I read this on another forum, its pretty crazy.
Imagine, a whole new era of Big Block Camaros
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 10:12 PM
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I will definately be on the list for an LS9 Camaro.
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 10:18 PM
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Ive read about this also. The guys working for gmhp said that at their level, they usually dont see things that arent going to be built. Theyve been talking about doing this for a while from what I understand, but had kicked it around as a crate motor......I ........want...........one............
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 11:24 PM
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this makes absolutely NO SENSE. NO ONE should make a 1,000hp production car. people are going to start killing themselves. i predict this will never happen. there's no way they're gonna be able to get an LSx structured motor pushing 1,000 hp while keeping safe street manners and passing emissions. i think it's an incredibly stupid idea. incredibly cool, yes, but incredibly stupid.

a 1,000 hp car is bad news. you just don't need it. no one needs to be running 9's off the showroom floor. it's dangerous to everybody on the road.

again, i don't see this happening with an LSx series motor. they'd have to create some DOHC FI setup in order to pass emissions. they barely passed the LS7 and that only makes ~500hp. there's no way they're doing it with an LSx motor.
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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 02:52 AM
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Hmmm, this is all very ponderous. Putting an LS9 in a Camaro would be absoultely wonderful, but i'm not sure i see it happening. There is a lot of hype going around and a lot of people saying what is "fact" or not. I really think that we wont REALLY know ANYTHING substantial until the first Camaros hit the showroom. LS9 would kick a lot of ***, but until i see it in person, im not sure i can rack it up as anything more than "wishful thinking", if not for the fact that it would be really expensive, i mean REALLY expensive.
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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 08:13 AM
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Definatly would be nice, but I dont think that the government would let this happen.
to many regulations, or they could put in a Ls9 capable of 900hp after some minor upgrades and tuning. But like it was said above...Its just wishful thinking.
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Old Oct 19, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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i dont think we'll see an 8.3 liter ls motor in a camaro or vette for that matter, that just seems to me like gm is flexing its muscle alittle. Its probably more for research and testing the limits. If it were going in a car, i would say it would be in some sort of high end cadillac that would rival bentlys and maybachs.

the SC 6.2 liter however is another story. I could see that in a cobra eating SS camaro... if so, im buying one!!
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Old Oct 19, 2006 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369
this makes absolutely NO SENSE. NO ONE should make a 1,000hp production car. people are going to start killing themselves. i predict this will never happen. there's no way they're gonna be able to get an LSx structured motor pushing 1,000 hp while keeping safe street manners and passing emissions. i think it's an incredibly stupid idea. incredibly cool, yes, but incredibly stupid.

a 1,000 hp car is bad news. you just don't need it. no one needs to be running 9's off the showroom floor. it's dangerous to everybody on the road.

again, i don't see this happening with an LSx series motor. they'd have to create some DOHC FI setup in order to pass emissions. they barely passed the LS7 and that only makes ~500hp. there's no way they're doing it with an LSx motor.

where does it say 1000 hp???
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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369
you just don't need it. no one needs to be running 9's off the showroom floor. it's dangerous to everybody on the road.

They did in 1969. You could get a stripper with a 427 and very easily get into the 9's.

I don't believe that GM would use this motor but with fly-by-wire controls and heavy torque management this would be streetable. Gen IV electronics could easily be unmodifiable if safety was a concern. Encrpytion and the fact that you have the engine and trans computers to keep together... you could have a reverse engineers worst nightmare.

Hard coding some of the programming could make it to where modifying the traction controls would simply disable the car or attempting to remove/disable componets would also lock down the car.

It could be done...

Besides IF it ever came out I am sure the pricetag would keep kids and most un/skilled drivers from purchasing the vehicle.

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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 05:30 PM
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 02:20 PM
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LOL very true
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369
this makes absolutely NO SENSE. NO ONE should make a 1,000hp production car. people are going to start killing themselves. i predict this will never happen. there's no way they're gonna be able to get an LSx structured motor pushing 1,000 hp while keeping safe street manners and passing emissions. i think it's an incredibly stupid idea. incredibly cool, yes, but incredibly stupid.

a 1,000 hp car is bad news. you just don't need it. no one needs to be running 9's off the showroom floor. it's dangerous to everybody on the road.

again, i don't see this happening with an LSx series motor. they'd have to create some DOHC FI setup in order to pass emissions. they barely passed the LS7 and that only makes ~500hp. there's no way they're doing it with an LSx motor.

lingenfelter made a twin turbo C5 with over 900 street legal rwhp. Its all a matter of whos willing to pay. If someone really wants a 1000hp car, theres nothing to stop them.
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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At least GM is finally putting DOHC in Corvettes, idc if it is SC
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