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Old May 24, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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It drives good! Kinda like a Corvette actually.

Hard to compare the concept car to the production version though.
Concept cars are on pieced-together versions of a Cadillac STS chassis (aka Sigma) with alot of fabrication. I believe the suspension and IRS on the concepts are also Sigma variants.

Production car is on the new Zeta chassis, which is a lot improved from the original Sigma that the concept's chassis is taken from.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 11:13 PM
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I was at the Grounds that day, I work at the GM Tech Center in Warren. I knew the cars were going to be there, but I didn't know there was a press show or anything going on. Hope you guys enjoyed your time in Michigan.

I'm trying to talk my wife into wanting a vert when they are available myself! I didn't want a vert when I got my car cause of the weight, but these cars are gonna be heavy anyway...

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Old May 24, 2007 | 11:17 PM
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Thanks for the pix, keep 'em coming!
What did you guys/ladies think of the interior layout?
Does the gauge cluster kinda remind you of the C3 dash?
Does it have some elbow room or does it feel like a cockpit in there?
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Old May 25, 2007 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 00PewterSS
I was at the Grounds that day, I work at the GM Tech Center in Warren. I knew the cars were going to be there, but I didn't know there was a press show or anything going on.
I understood they were bringing them over to the cafeteria so the employees could get a gander at lunchtime.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by OctaneZ28
It drives good! Kinda like a Corvette actually.

Hard to compare the concept car to the production version though.
Concept cars are on pieced-together versions of a Cadillac STS chassis (aka Sigma) with alot of fabrication. I believe the suspension and IRS on the concepts are also Sigma variants.

Production car is on the new Zeta chassis, which is a lot improved from the original Sigma that the concept's chassis is taken from.
Yeah, I figure that the production car will drive better.
I remember lutz saying something along the line of CTS-V suspension parts can fit the Camaro's chassis (and I assume are going to be used). Did you hear anything about this?
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Old May 25, 2007 | 10:11 AM
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I understood they were bringing them over to the cafeteria so the employees could get a gander at lunchtime.
Yeah I believe that was the plan. I would have rather seen them out at black lake driving around instead.

The cars are being engineered in Australia so I haven't really followed what is going on so much. I did give them data to give to the supplier AAM to determine which axle to put in the car. They seem a little more laid back over there, I'm interested to see if they meet program timing.

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Originally Posted by .T.
Thanks for the pix, keep 'em coming!
What did you guys/ladies think of the interior layout?
Does the gauge cluster kinda remind you of the C3 dash?
Does it have some elbow room or does it feel like a cockpit in there?
Interior was nice and roomy, I was comfortable even in the back seat.
Driving position is good, seating is more upright and more comfortable. There will be more adjustability, so shorter and taller people can fit comfortably.
I'm not a big fan of the concept's gauges, but they're gonna change for the production car anyway.

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I remember lutz saying something along the line of CTS-V suspension parts can fit the Camaro's chassis (and I assume are going to be used). Did you hear anything about this?
I haven't heard anything official, but the production car won't have the CTS-V rear or suspension (maybe the concept cars do though, not sure).
Production chassis is Zeta, and its IRS and suspension was redeveloped fromthe ground up. This new IRS is currently under the Holden Commodore in Australia, and will be under the Pontiac G8 that we'll see here late this year.
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Old May 26, 2007 | 01:07 AM
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they did use some CTS suspension pieces on the concepts.....
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Originally Posted by OctaneZ28
Yeah it was a blast, I still can't believe I got to do that.

I'm in the same boat for saving money, I'm half tempted to sell my Camaro just to kick start savings for this car, I'm THAT excited about it!!
I already did that. I've got $6K milling around waiting for the camaro. I'm supposedly #3 on my local dealers waiting list.

I wish you could indulge more details, but I know the cars just skeletons of what they will be production time.
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