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B-pillars eh?

Old Oct 5, 2007 | 11:16 AM
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Dont know if this is a repost or not but my buddy sent this to me knowing i was a camaro buff so i thought id share

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...cleId=122816#4
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 11:20 AM
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 11:21 AM
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I would have been shocked if there weren't any B-Pillers . . .

I don't think there is a single 2 door coupe on the market without them . . .

Do wish they weren't there, but oh well.

Say thanks to the Federal Government, NTSA, Insurance Co's and Lawyers for that one . . . .
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 11:50 AM
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http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...cleId=122816#4
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 12:26 PM
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I know ya'll are all disappointed by this, but in all actuality, it gained a B-pillar back in '82, just no C-Pillar. It might not be "3rd-gen big" on the '09 though....
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 03:40 PM
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Hmmm...GM better not f#ck this up!
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 10:13 PM
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I hope they don't screw this one up. I'll say one thing right now.... I've been planning on dumping $30-35k if necessary at my local Chevy dealer to get one of these things when they come out, but if I'm not 100% happy with the design, forget it. I don't care if it gets a 500hp LS7.... if I don't like the look I'll just buy another low mileage 4th gen instead.
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 11:07 PM
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Big deal if it is not a true hard top. True hard tops weigh more, what is the purpose?!

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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by HFLDtA
lol what is a B Pillar? What does it do? Wheres it located?


To me this is not a big deal. Certainly not a deal breaker.
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by HFLDtA
Cool thanks. Does that mean it wont be a UniBody? The new Camaro will be a coupe, how does the BPillar affect the Body?
Good question! It will still be a Unibody. The B-Pillar is nothing more than an extra pillar in the roof structure. Let's compare...

A '68 Camaro, notice that it has only a definite A- and C-Pillar. There is a chrome guide rail in between the quarter and door windows, but it has no structural capacity. If you put all the windows down in this car(you can even put the rear passenger quarter windows down on the old Chevies!) the roof of the car would be supported by only four points, the A- and C-Pillars respectively.


Now, for a car with B-Pillars, we'll turn to everyones favorite nemesis, the '05 Mustang. You can see that, in this design, there is a large structural pillar between the door window and the quarter window. This design lends strength to the structure, but is seen to be undesirable in many peoples' eyes. Also, most cars with a B-pillar like the Mustang CAN NOT roll down the back windows. They are solid pieces of glass like the windshield. .

Many Camaro guys are afraid that, with a B-pillar in place, that the '09 will look too much like a Mustang. Personally, I don't think this is too big of a concern, seeing as the Camaro will be a Coupe' and not a fastback, but there are still concerns over the presence of a B-pillar in the iconic beltline of a '69 re-do. Only time will tell.
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I think if they do the b-pillar right it won't look bad. Just have to wait and see I guess. A b-pillar wouldn't be a deal-breaker to me though.
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If this is the worst thing we have to worry about we are doing ok...this will save weight...something that desperately needs saving!!!

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if it will save cost and weight, so be it. I think the b pillar will look worse on the challenger then on the camaro.
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As long as it doesn't have a D-pillar we'll be OK.
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Here's a thought,perhaps GM and Dodge will put the B-pillar behind the glass, so that it isn't readily visible from the outside. They'd have to do some major chassis stiffening in order to keep it from shattering though...
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Originally Posted by Hydramatic
Here's a thought,perhaps GM and Dodge will put the B-pillar behind the glass, so that it isn't readily visible from the outside.
I'm pretty sure this will be the case. Look at the B-pillar on the GTO. I can live with this.
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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+1 for the weight savings of having a b pillar but I like the pillarless hardtop design best.
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