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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 09:59 PM
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I see a lot of LS1 cars in autotrader with a dash light on (running cars in pic). It is in the lower left hand corner. Is this the CEL or the "hand-brake" or "door" light? Where is the CEL and any other "bad" lights located?
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 10:29 PM
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Do you have a pic? I can't think of what you could be talking about.
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Originally Posted by Stanger88
I see a lot of LS1 cars in autotrader with a dash light on (running cars in pic). It is in the lower left hand corner. Is this the CEL or the "hand-brake" or "door" light? Where is the CEL and any other "bad" lights located?
cel or ses? the ses light is right above the speedo to the right. lower corner is skip shift i believe.
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Old Oct 10, 2006 | 12:24 AM
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Yeah, SES, sorry, I was thinking "Check Engine" Yeah, thats what I thought, but in all the pics the hand brake is up, where is that light at? Dang, I just need a dash/light pic diagram, lol
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Originally Posted by Stanger88
Yeah, SES, sorry, I was thinking "Check Engine" Yeah, thats what I thought, but in all the pics the hand brake is up, where is that light at? Dang, I just need a dash/light pic diagram, lol
going jsut from memory..some where on the left of the tach. The ses light is usually a cat. autozone checks them for free. If its a solid light..it wouldn't worry me...o2 senor, bad cat..ect. a flashing one is a mis fire..plugs, wires, bad coil..ect...a lot more of a bitch to find out what is wrong. my light has only been on 3 times in 40k miles of driving. twice for the drive side cat once for the passenger side. all covered under warranty, 8 years/80k for emission stuff.
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Originally Posted by Stanger88
I see a lot of LS1 cars in autotrader with a dash light on (running cars in pic). It is in the lower left hand corner. Is this the CEL or the "hand-brake" or "door" light? Where is the CEL and any other "bad" lights located?
are you sure its running and they dont just turn the key on to display the mileage? cause if you jsut turn the key over, the SES light above the speedometer will illuminate.
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It was running b/c the tach was at 550ish. The light I see on is just above and to the left of the oil pressure guage
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PS. why do cats die so much on these cars?
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Originally Posted by Stanger88
PS. why do cats die so much on these cars?
because they are shitty. My best guess..these cars run really rich from factory....so the cats have to do a lot of work to keep te cars clean. Most places would charge 75 or so to delete the code so yuo won't have to worry about it showing up again.
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Here's something I made in Paint real quick. It's not the best picture but I think you’ll get the idea.



1. Low Coolant
2. Low Oil
3. Safety Belt Reminder
4. Air Bag Readiness
5. ASR Off
6. Brake
7. Check Gages
8. Low Trac
9. ABS Inop
10. Service Engine Soon
11. Security
12. Skip Shift

EDIT: I guess there is also a Service Vehicle light right above the Engine Oil Pressure Gage.

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Old Oct 10, 2006 | 04:58 PM
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HAHA! it WAS the hand-brake light (I saw the brake was physically on, so I figured it was).

Is there any way to make a cat go out at oh....75K miles? I would not be happy if it died at 85K miles...
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well you can, but it may **** up the O2's in the process. dump some leaded racing gas in and watch your cats die.
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Originally Posted by bww3588
well you can, but it may **** up the O2's in the process. dump some leaded racing gas in and watch your cats die.

Pull 02's, add racing gas, smile but could they detect that? (obviously dont go in there with it still in the tank) and would that mess with injectors, ect?? I would be scared to do that. would Marvel Mystery oil added in decent quantities (not absurd to cause detonation, but a tad more than recommended) to the fuel kill them over 5K miles or so? (Damn im a sick person )
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no, it wont hurt the injectors. the only thing it will hurt is the cats. the engine wont run worth 2 ***** in a sack without the O2's
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don't worry about the cats, if they go, bring the car to have a sponser tune it out. my first went at 51k, second at 54k, third at 59k, driver side went twice...since then its been all good.
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Originally Posted by BrandonDrecksage
don't worry about the cats, if they go, bring the car to have a sponser tune it out. my first went at 51k, second at 54k, third at 59k, driver side went twice...since then its been all good.

Cat dying SES light= cat plugged, or cat just not converting well enough to make the computer happy?
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Originally Posted by Stanger88
Cat dying SES light= cat plugged, or cat just not converting well enough to make the computer happy?
normally if the cat is plugged, it wont be doing its job well enough to please the computer.
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Originally Posted by bww3588
normally if the cat is plugged, it wont be doing its job well enough to please the computer.
So tuning it out is just blinding yourself to heat build-up and hp loss, why not remove/replace?
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Originally Posted by Stanger88
So tuning it out is just blinding yourself to heat build-up and hp loss, why not remove/replace?
well you should remove/replace. if the cat is not doing its job wether its plugged or not its still not doing its job. it cant be fixed so your only options is remove or replace.
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Originally Posted by Stanger88
So tuning it out is just blinding yourself to heat build-up and hp loss, why not remove/replace?
they normally don't get plugged up. they normally gut themselves. Cats are already operating at a high temp... them failing won't make it much hotter..that is all assuming though.
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