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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 07:52 PM
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*From Webster's Online Dictionary*

MOTOR:

Main Entry: 1mo·tor
Pronunciation: \ˈmō-tər\
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin, from movēre to move
Date: 1586
1: one that imparts motion; specifically : prime mover
2: any of various power units that develop energy or impart motion: as a: a small compact engine b: internal combustion engine; especially : a gasoline engine c: a rotating machine that transforms electrical energy into mechanical energy

ENGINE:

Main Entry: 1en·gine
Pronunciation: \ˈen-jən\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English engineering, from Anglo-French, from Latin ingenium natural disposition, talent, from in- + gignere to beget — more at kin
Date: 13th century
1obsolete a: ingenuity b: evil contrivance : wile
2 a: something used to effect a purpose : agent, instrument <mournful and terrible engine of horror and of crime — E. A. Poe> b: something that produces a particular and usually desirable result <engines of economic growth>
3 a: a mechanical tool: as (1): an instrument or machine of war (2)obsolete : a torture implement b: machinery c: any of various mechanical appliances — often used in combination <fire engine>
4: a machine for converting any of various forms of energy into mechanical force and motion; also : a mechanism or object that serves as an energy source <black holes may be the engines for quasars>
5: a railroad locomotive
6: computer software that performs a fundamental function especially of a larger program

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Looks to me that they are basically interchangeble.

Websters Dictionary isn't actual definitions. Their definitions are what people mean when they say said world.

Real definitions:

American Heritage
http://www.bartleby.com/61/33/M0443300.html

-A system consisting of an electric motor and accessory parts, used to power machinery.


Webster's Third Edition Dictionary (the one/style you see now)
Gove's stance was an exemplar of descriptivist linguistics, aiming to represent the English language as it is actually spoken and written by most users rather than attempting to prescribe its use.
Examples of them using words incorrectly or defining unreal words.

"a dictionary's embrace of the word 'ain't' will comfort the ignorant, confer approval upon the mediocre, and subtly imply that proper English is the tool of only the snob".

"The New York Times editorialized that "Webster's has, it is apparent, surrendered to the permissive school that has been busily extending its beachhead in English instruction in the schools . . . reinforced the notion that good English is whatever is popular" and "can only accelerate the deterioration" of the English language"


Anyway what all of that means is that the Webster dictionary defines what people means when they say something, not the official meaning of the word.


I don't really care if you call it a motor or not, I'm just simply stating that Webster's definition isn't the OFFICIAL definition. Pretty much any website you go to online is going to be a webster style definition even if it doesn't say Merriam Webster specifically.

So with an official technical dictionary form motor means electrical.

It's sorta like calling something a BBC Pontiac despite Pontiac not technically making big blocks though everyone says it anyway...
Old Mar 8, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Genesis_26317
Websters Dictionary isn't actual definitions. Their definitions are what people mean when they say said world.
LOL. Ok, whatever you say.

Originally Posted by Genesis_26317
It's sorta like calling something a BBC Pontiac despite Pontiac not technically making big blocks though everyone says it anyway...
I disagree. "Everyone" does not call a large cube Pontiac block a "BBC". And you will not find any dictionary ("official" or otherwise, LOL), book, or referance material that states "BBC = Pontiac engine or motor".

BBC = Pontiac is simply incorrect on any level. Like saying that the word "Camaro" is spelled "Camero". Some people do it, but it's not correct on any level, by anyone's definition.

Motor = Engine is a different story. Hence multiple definitions from multiple sources.
Old Mar 8, 2007 | 08:41 PM
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guys....it is






























what it is........
Old Mar 8, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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I use engine more, like for example, I tell my little bro to check his engine oil of his car and such
Old Mar 8, 2007 | 09:20 PM
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this all depends on what part of the country you live in.its loike fuel and gas theres no real answer
Old Mar 8, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by staringback05
ehh^^^ not like firefigthers would care, theyve got more pressing issue's....like baking cookies
and sleeping together
Old Mar 8, 2007 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6
LOL. Ok, whatever you say.



I disagree. "Everyone" does not call a large cube Pontiac block a "BBC". And you will not find any dictionary ("official" or otherwise, LOL), book, or referance material that states "BBC = Pontiac engine or motor".

BBC = Pontiac is simply incorrect on any level. Like saying that the word "Camaro" is spelled "Camero". Some people do it, but it's not correct on any level, by anyone's definition.

Motor = Engine is a different story. Hence multiple definitions from multiple sources.

Well Webster's was one of the first to call a computer a machine and not only a guy doing your taxes.

Webster's expands the language and helps people understand but it doesn't show end all definitions that are the universal definition. It says what Americans mean when they say it.

Laymen can use it however they want without someone yelling at them but an electrical engineering professor would disagree.


Like when some dumb f#ck calls a magazine a clip.

Give me another clip...
I only have one bullet left in my clip...

Webster
2 : a device to hold cartridges for charging the magazines of some rifles; also : a magazine from which ammunition is fed into the chamber of a firearm

No a magazine is a magazine, a clip is what a moron calls it when they feel like spending an extra two weeks in Basic Training.

You don't see it here though:
http://www.bartleby.com/61/7/C0410700.html


Though they do call it a "motor pool" in the military for the car holding place...
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motor = electric engine = n e thing else i like to say motor better though. sounds more professional? to me? but n e way... like someone said earlier, it is regional...for instance, i think more people in northern indiana say "wash" more southern, people say "warsh." "tar" and "tire" ect.....ect.....
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 09:50 PM
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I don't mind it when people call it a motor, I just hate it when people call a f$cking magazine a f$cking clip!

I hate it even more when people call a satellite dish a satellite!!
Old Mar 8, 2007 | 09:58 PM
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i hate people in general....
Old Mar 8, 2007 | 10:24 PM
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yes, a person is smart(well, the general population) but people as a whole are retarded...and i agree with the clip/mag referance...i also hate movies that portray military wepaons and tactics totaly inaccurate...as in..this doesnt happen in real life..like the Marine with cena..what a douche
Old Mar 8, 2007 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SIC FUQR
yes, a person is smart(well, the general population) but people as a whole are retarded...and i agree with the clip/mag referance...i also hate movies that portray military wepaons and tactics totaly inaccurate...as in..this doesnt happen in real life..like the Marine with cena..what a douche

Yeah I know. Like when they show special ops and the weapons they use. I have never in my life EVER seen a Marine EVER use a Soviet RPG.

Saying motor is like saying nucular.

I don't care if you say it, but some people go nuts over it because it is technically wrong. I used to work in AFTAC (primary nuclear non-proliferation monitors) and BOY did those guys go nuts when I purposely said it wrong.

Oh, and the Sandia guys whoa! People get some seriously dirty looks when some LT uses nucular like 14 times in the same sentence.
Old Mar 8, 2007 | 11:03 PM
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I've been taught:
Engine=multiple moving parts---combustion
Motor=single moving part--electric motor

But correcting people 4 calling an engine a motor is pretty much pointless.

Not saying this thread is pointless....I especially loved the part where people made fun of fire fighters.
Old Mar 8, 2007 | 11:08 PM
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Hey you know what REALLY bugged me. Last week at a fifty cal range this E6 kept calling a BELT of ammo a clip....man WTF where did he get that? He said it like twelve times and when no one was buying it he corrected himself to the crowd, I'm not saying anything else, get's me almost as pissed when I grind my syncros.....not that it really happens...errrr
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Originally Posted by sapper_daddy
Hey you know what REALLY bugged me. Last week at a fifty cal range this E6 kept calling a BELT of ammo a clip....man WTF where did he get that? He said it like twelve times and when no one was buying it he corrected himself to the crowd, I'm not saying anything else, get's me almost as pissed when I grind my syncros.....not that it really happens...errrr

AN E6 SAYING THAT!?!?!?

OH MAN!!!

Sounds like someone needs to go back to freakin' week 5 (or whatever week they do it now) in basic.

I hate grinding gears in public, especially when I feel all hotsh%t getting into my Z06.
Wife Me

It is okay for a teen who doesn't know better to call it that once but anyone over 18 who has been told at least once needs a good asskicking when they do that Duke Nukem crap.

I love Doom I-II, but one thing I will never forgive them for is spreading that crap.
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homer simpsoon said it best
"nuc-u-lar...its pronounced nuc-u-lar"
Old Mar 9, 2007 | 06:22 AM
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in all honesty who cares?....

if your a dodge guy your gonna call it a "hemi" even if it has 4 cylinders and runs on eco fuel

if your a GM guy your gonna call it a SBC motor...and swear its the fastest thing to ever haul moonshine

if your a ford guy your going to call it a superduty...even if its a damn ranger, and tell everyone toby keith sold it to u

and if your a import guy....you dont know what an internal combustion motor is, because you believe your car runs on boost alone....
Old Mar 9, 2007 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Genesis_26317
Webster's expands the language and helps people understand but it doesn't show end all definitions that are the universal definition. It says what Americans mean when they say it.

Laymen can use it however they want without someone yelling at them but an electrical engineering professor would disagree.
Hmmmm, interesting but; J/K!!

I'll will accept your definition as soon as they change all the racetrack names from Motorspeedway to Enginespeedway.

There may have been a time when Motor = only an electric device with no internal combustion. But as times change, many words grow to have new/additional meanings.

Just look at the word "gay". Consider what it meant before it was a referance to the homosexual.

BTW. This thread is gay.

Old Mar 9, 2007 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by y2k_ta
So would Fire Engines change to Fire Motors?
Meh, for some reason, "Fire motor" sounds more badass than "Fire Engine"
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Who cares but what else is there to talk about this late at night.

Besides if you don't care about it don't read the thread!!!


There haven't been many good tech threads in the past week that didn't degrade into fights; at least this one isn't argueing about aluminum intakes vs composite or about Mustangs vs F-Bodies.

This one is AT LEAST civil.

Besides ALL imports run at least 25 psi even if it isn't turbocharged.



Nucular isn't all that bad when you think of the word nu-cu-lus as its base.

I would love a 50,000 ft/lb nuclear powered Tsunami class sub engine inside my Z06. It'd add a few pounds, and might mess up the front/rear weight ratio but hell not many people can punch out 50k ft/lbs of torque.



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