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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 10:00 PM
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hey guys, i heard a while back that you could use the ls1 vette o2 sensors on an f-body with long tubes, is this true? i currently have an extension set up and the o2s are beat, but i extended them to use the original harness incase i ever wanted to switch back, it would be nice if i could have one thats just plug and play.

if so is it the front o2s or the rears that i need to order? thanks!
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a search could have found you the answer you were looking for since this has been covered hundreds of times, but yes the vette rear o2s will work just fine... bosch 13111's are what alot of people use... the front and rear o2s are basically the same, they are both narrow band 4 wire o2 sensors... the only real difference is the length of the wire
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 10:07 PM
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my apologies, i did do a search but must not have been searching correctly, as all i got were vette specific o2 related questions

thanks for the info!
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 10:16 PM
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no prob, i'm not trying to be a dick but i see the same questions on here every day lol
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I personally would use Densos, they work in LT's and stock exhaust, doesn't matter. Bosch sensors don't work with my PCM, at all, engine won't run.

I've had Densos on my 427ci LT's and they're perfect so far, 7 months. Densos are also what GM now uses as their own 02 sensors now. So if you go to dealer for new sensors, you'll get Densos....but you'll pay $160 each for the same exact damn sensor.

$40.00, new at www.rockauto.com


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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 08:02 PM
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my friend works at a parts store and can get me the bosch sensors for $55 a piece, with his discount. Thats weird why is it that the boschs dont work on your car? i was positive they had to if thats the application they were made for

i just was going with the vette sensors because i dont feel like getting back into rewiring, as i said i still have the harnesses there and alot of what i didnt like with doing the wiring was the fact that i still felt like they werent as protected
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 08:09 PM
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my friend works at a parts store and can get me the bosch sensors for $55 a piece, with his discount. Thats weird why is it that the boschs dont work on your car? i was positive they had to if thats the application they were made for
The Densos are cheaper than the Bosch sensors, even with your friends discount. Densos are better sensors that GM AC Delco originals, betetr design. Bosch copied GM's design. Bosch and GM use slits in the sensor tips....Densos use a shitload of holes all around the sensors tip. It gets better airflow into them IMO.

Bosch are just garbage to alot of our cars, they just don't work well. Some people, they work ok.

Try the Bosch if you want, there's no way that they are better than Densos though.


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thanks for the info ill def look into that...and there direct replacements/plug and play right?
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for $40 a pop i would assume you will have to wire the connector to it... if they come with the connector installed ready to go i'd be all over those haha
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thats the stock photo of it, im wondering (off rockauto)
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well the plug is definitely different, i think those are just generic photos... just wait for LS6427 to reply i'm sure he will have the answer
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Originally Posted by midnight_effect
thanks for the info ill def look into that...and there direct replacements/plug and play right?
Yes, they plug and play. They come assembled just like an AC Delco would.

You just need to order the right ones depending on which length wires you need, thats all.

www.rockauto.com has both lengths.

$40.00, complete set up, sensors with wires. They are serious quality sensors. Better than AC Delcos IMO.


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GM has redesigned their 02's and now use little holes.
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Originally Posted by 99SSragtop
GM has redesigned their 02's and now use little holes.
Those are Densos.

When I bought brand new AC Delcos from Bennett Auto and went to pick them up....I opened the AC Delco GM boxes and Densos were inside. Down to the words "Denso" on the plastic bags they were wrapped in and the install directions inside the bag with the "Denso" name on them. They use Denso now for their 02 sensors.

I asked the guy to go get two Denso sensors off the shelf...I opened them up they were 100% the same identical sensors. But half the price ****** thieves at GM. So of course I bought the Densos.


Now maybe they did redesign theres and were just using Densos in the past 7 months till they were finished designing them and getting them out to the dealers and stores......I'd have to see one first to confirm that.

If they did......they copied the BETTER Denso sensor design. Thats good, but they're noy better and they're still gonna be a complete rip-off.


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Did you buy the Vette rear style or the fbody styles from Rock auto?
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i actually ended up just getting the bosch sets from pep boys and there just fine. only thing is those rear sensors have ALOT of extra wire and the zip ties it comes with def arnt cutting it so have some better ones on hand
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Did you buy the Vette rear style or the fbody styles from Rock auto?
They're all the same sensors, doesn't matter if its a vette or a F-Body.

Just do a search on www.rockauto.com for 1998 Firebird Trans Am.

You'll find: DENSO Part # 2344000

Get whichever lengths you need. The plugs are all the same. Or just get all long ones and zip-tie whatever wire is left over to the frame.

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