General Maintenance & Repairs Leaks | Squeaks | Clunks | Rattles | Grinds
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

window motor rivets moving!?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 15, 2017 | 10:22 PM
  #1  
BlackSS2001's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
20 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
From: Joplin,MO
Default window motor rivets moving!?

I'm about to replace my window motors and I noticed around the rivets on the driver side there was ware marks on the door. I rolled the window down and when the window reached the bottom the rivets moved up. When the window reaches the very top the rivets move down.

My question is how do I go about fixing this? I wasn't going to remove these rivets as I was going to go this rout. http://shbox.com/page/windowmotor.html

I can replace the rivets and that's not a big deal. I just don't think that will fix anything as I'm assuming the holes in the door are oblong/oval now.
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2017 | 11:06 PM
  #2  
Crf450r420's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
10 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 1,099
Likes: 5
From: Florida
Default

Not sure if you are talking about the rivets that hold the window motor, but there are ways to fix anything. You can go to larger rivet and make the holes round again. If that won't work you can use a sleeve and the original size fasteners (the window motor goes back in with bolts) or you can plate the holes with some metal and drill that to the correct size an location.
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2017 | 11:38 AM
  #3  
BlackSS2001's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
20 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
From: Joplin,MO
Default

Originally Posted by Crf450r420
Not sure if you are talking about the rivets that hold the window motor, but there are ways to fix anything. You can go to larger rivet and make the holes round again. If that won't work you can use a sleeve and the original size fasteners (the window motor goes back in with bolts) or you can plate the holes with some metal and drill that to the correct size an location.
It's the rivets that hold the plate to the door.
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2017 | 12:02 PM
  #4  
383z's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
15 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 618
Likes: 57
From: Houston/Clear Lake, TX.
Default

Can you post a picture?

Regardless, you might be able to use larger rivets or can you drill the current rivets out and replaced them with nuts and bolts?
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2017 | 02:17 PM
  #5  
BlackSS2001's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
20 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
From: Joplin,MO
Default



I drilled out the rivets but you can see the damage from them moving.

Reply
Old Jul 16, 2017 | 02:19 PM
  #6  
BlackSS2001's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
20 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
From: Joplin,MO
Default

I'm wondering if drilling out the hole in the door to a specific size and finding a metal spacer to fill the area and then use a large washer then putting the rivet through both of them.
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2017 | 02:23 PM
  #7  
BlackSS2001's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
20 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
From: Joplin,MO
Default



Something like this. The door hole and spacer would have to be a very tight fit but wouldn't it work?
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2017 | 03:53 PM
  #8  
farmington's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,807
Likes: 13
From: Little River SC
Default

Don't even try to use rivets to install motors. Screws, washers, lock washers , and a nut. Don't over think this.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jul 16, 2017 | 04:59 PM
  #9  
BlackSS2001's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
20 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
From: Joplin,MO
Default

Originally Posted by farmington
Don't even try to use rivets to install motors. Screws, washers, lock washers , and a nut. Don't over think this.
Who does that? Seems a bit of a half *** way

Either way bolt or rivet, something else will be needed to keep either from moving.
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2017 | 05:05 PM
  #10  
LS6427's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 11,289
Likes: 13
From: South Florida
Default

I can't remember exactly right now......but I had this exact issue like 10 years ago......

I went to the dealership and asked them for a pack of specifically designed rivets for this issue. They gave me a pack of 3 or pack of 5, can't remember.

I drilled one rivet out at a time and replaced it with these new heavy duty rivets one by one. Still have my car today and they are all 100% rock solid still.

Just call the parts guy at the dealership......they should know what they are.

.
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2017 | 08:43 PM
  #11  
BlackSS2001's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
20 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
From: Joplin,MO
Default

Originally Posted by LS6427
I can't remember exactly right now......but I had this exact issue like 10 years ago......

I went to the dealership and asked them for a pack of specifically designed rivets for this issue. They gave me a pack of 3 or pack of 5, can't remember.

I drilled one rivet out at a time and replaced it with these new heavy duty rivets one by one. Still have my car today and they are all 100% rock solid still.

Just call the parts guy at the dealership......they should know what they are.

.
Awesome! I was going to the dealership tomorrow anyway. I'll go a bit of looking around before and see if i can't find them. Thank you.
Reply
Old Jul 17, 2017 | 08:18 AM
  #12  
bleepster's Avatar
TECH Resident
10 Year Member
Shutterbug
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 763
Likes: 53
From: Mid-Michigan
Default

i just did this on my bird. I got the proper rivets and you need a special rivet gun to handle the rivets. like $20 at harbor freight.

anyway, i epoxied fender washers over the holes that were wrecked. riveted everything together and window works awesome now.

i got 10 GM rivets off Ebay for $8 (10 GM Window Regulator Rivets 1/4 Diameter 10157547)
and this is the rivet gun you need:
Amazon Amazon
Reply
Old Jul 17, 2017 | 05:33 PM
  #13  
LS6427's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 11,289
Likes: 13
From: South Florida
Default

Originally Posted by bleepster
i just did this on my bird. I got the proper rivets and you need a special rivet gun to handle the rivets. like $20 at harbor freight.

anyway, i epoxied fender washers over the holes that were wrecked. riveted everything together and window works awesome now.

i got 10 GM rivets off Ebay for $8 (10 GM Window Regulator Rivets 1/4 Diameter 10157547)
and this is the rivet gun you need: https://www.amazon.com/Dorman-743-10...NN14HXW33366X7
Good post......those are the ones.....

.
Reply
Old Jul 22, 2017 | 12:34 PM
  #14  
flyboy129's Avatar
On The Tree
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 149
Likes: 1
From: Tennessee
Default

Originally Posted by BlackSS2001
Who does that? Seems a bit of a half *** way

Either way bolt or rivet, something else will be needed to keep either from moving.
Me. Works great. Cheap. Simple. Use washers and nylocks. Wrench tight and sandwich the parts. Door panel hides everything anyway. Hardly half-assed considering we're talking about a product GM built.

Also, in case you aren't aware of this, don't allow your windows to bottom out when rolling down. I'm pretty sure this is one of the causes of this issue.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:34 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE