General Maintenance & Repairs Leaks | Squeaks | Clunks | Rattles | Grinds
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

Broken oil gauge

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 14, 2020 | 02:58 PM
  #1  
Zero2-Z28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Default Broken oil gauge

Hello everyone , I'm new here I have a 2002 camaro z28 6spd , it's got 70k original miles on it. Now I believe the oil gauge itself is broken , I already replaced oil pressure sensor and that did nothing . Everything else works fine, so I assume it has to be the gauge itself . Now is there a way I can rebuild the cluster or anyone have recomendations on if I should just run an auxilery oil gauge for now seeing the rest of the cluster is fine . Or is there anything else that could make the gauge constantly show max pressure .
Reply
Old Feb 14, 2020 | 04:49 PM
  #2  
01CamaroSSTx's Avatar
11 Second Club
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 6,014
Likes: 2,294
From: Conroe, Texas
Default

It just stay maxed and never moves right? Have you checked the wires from the engine harness for the oil pressure sending unit to make sure there isn't an issue such as a loose or broken connection.
Reply
Old Feb 15, 2020 | 08:09 AM
  #3  
wssix99's Avatar
Save the manuals!
15 Year Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 12,969
Likes: 389
From: Chicago, IL
Default

Very unlikely you have a problem with the actual gauge. ^ Please tell us more about what is actually going on.

It IS common for oil pressure sensors to be duds out of the box. This has happened to many of us. For some reason, nobody can make a reliable sender for this engine.
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2020 | 09:44 AM
  #4  
Hot Karl's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 118
Likes: 1
Default

I'm having a similar issue. However I had to splice in an extension to the "big" ground that goes onto the back of the driver side head. Initially I decided to mount it to the passenger head, but this produced some weird issues so I moved it back. My sending unit still shows maxed out when turning the key to the "on" position. When I turn the key off, the needle will very very slowly start to drop, but it stops around 60 psi.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2020 | 06:15 PM
  #5  
Zero2-Z28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by 01CamaroSSTx
It just stay maxed and never moves right? Have you checked the wires from the engine harness for the oil pressure sending unit to make sure there isn't an issue such as a loose or broken connection.
Even with the car off the gauge is pinned on max. No matter if the key is on or car is started there is no movement what so ever .Even after the new sensor was put in. There was no change. The dealer said it's probably the gauge but I don't trust dealers entirely. I haven't checked the conection yet where would that be located ?
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2020 | 07:44 PM
  #6  
Hot Karl's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 118
Likes: 1
Default

Originally Posted by Zero2-Z28
Even with the car off the gauge is pinned on max. No matter if the key is on or car is started there is no movement what so ever .Even after the new sensor was put in. There was no change. The dealer said it's probably the gauge but I don't trust dealers entirely. I haven't checked the conection yet where would that be located ?
I have the same symptoms. Here's what I've done so far...

This weekend I used a power probe and attempted to ground the wire out. My understanding is the gauge at the dash should go to zero when grounded. No change. With the power probe kit there is a tool that you can use to inject a signal that will help you find a broken wire. When I hooked it up it showed me that the wire is broken right at the connector, even though the insulation is intact. I bought a new connector. You could always try to find the wire under the dash that goes to the gauge and see if there is continuity at the connector. Assuming the other gauges are working correctly I doubt it's the ground for the gauges.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2020 | 06:18 AM
  #7  
wssix99's Avatar
Save the manuals!
15 Year Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 12,969
Likes: 389
From: Chicago, IL
Default

Some of the gauges can go out of range the point where the pickups (inside the gauge, connected to the needle) are no longer in contact. Maybe a wild input from a bad OPSU shot it off the edge?

I would try this next:
- Undo the dash bezels. (Remove the lower IP panel, the panel below the steering wheel, and the trim around the gauge cluster.)
- Pull the gauge cluster out.
- Flip the gauges upside down and then rotate to the side so all the needles fall back to zero.
- Reinstall the cluster and see how it goes!
Reply
Old May 2, 2020 | 12:47 PM
  #8  
Zero2-Z28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Default

Sorry I haven't replied to anyone in a while the weather wasn't permited and the car remained in storage longer then expected . Started to work on the cluster again. Looked all over the internet and it looks like somewhere there is a bad ground. Does anyone on here have a diagram or know where I can find the grounding points . Thanks for all the help and ideas so far very appreciative!
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-1

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-5

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-8

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
Old May 2, 2020 | 12:51 PM
  #9  
Zero2-Z28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by wssix99
Some of the gauges can go out of range the point where the pickups (inside the gauge, connected to the needle) are no longer in contact. Maybe a wild input from a bad OPSU shot it off the edge?

I would try this next:
- Undo the dash bezels. (Remove the lower IP panel, the panel below the steering wheel, and the trim around the gauge cluster.)
- Pull the gauge cluster out.
- Flip the gauges upside down and then rotate to the side so all the needles fall back to zero.
- Reinstall the cluster and see how it goes!


Tried to do what you suggested and the needle shot right back past 80 after I reinstalled and started the car . Thanks for the suggestion though !

Reply
Old May 2, 2020 | 02:55 PM
  #10  
wssix99's Avatar
Save the manuals!
15 Year Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 12,969
Likes: 389
From: Chicago, IL
Default

You are definitely getting a voltage spike. I'm not sure about a bad ground. Seems to me more likely to be a cut or crossed wire.

We have a sticky in one of these section, which lists out all the grounds. You can also register at AutoZone.com and get access to all the OEM electrical diagrams in their repair center.
Reply
Old May 2, 2020 | 08:45 PM
  #11  
booz's Avatar
On The Tree
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 110
Likes: 14
From: Puerto Rico
Default

Mine did the same thing. It was maybe a broken cable. Put a direct wire to the back of the cluster. You need to check continuity of the sensor to the pigtail back of the cluster

Check my thread.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/general-m...eme-right.html
Reply
Old May 2, 2020 | 09:04 PM
  #12  
Zero2-Z28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by booz
Mine did the same thing. It was maybe a broken cable. Put a direct wire to the back of the cluster. You need to check continuity of the sensor to the pigtail back of the cluster

Check my thread.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/general-m...eme-right.html


Ok thanks for the info , with both of us having the same exact issue that's probably the case with me too. Just a side question then , is there an easy way to get to the oil pressure sensor without having to remove the manifold or is that what you did ?
Reply
Old May 2, 2020 | 11:30 PM
  #13  
wssix99's Avatar
Save the manuals!
15 Year Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 12,969
Likes: 389
From: Chicago, IL
Default

Originally Posted by Zero2-Z28
is there an easy way to get to the oil pressure sensor without having to remove the manifold or is that what you did ?
I wouldn't call it easy, but it can be done with some heroics: https://ls1tech.com/forums/general-m...ding-unit.html
Reply
Old May 3, 2020 | 12:20 PM
  #14  
Zero2-Z28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by wssix99
I wouldn't call it easy, but it can be done with some heroics: https://ls1tech.com/forums/general-m...ding-unit.html

Great this gives me some confidence going into it seeing I have Skinny arms and hands. Would you know which color wire would be the one I'm going to need to re run by any chance ?
Reply
Old May 3, 2020 | 12:46 PM
  #15  
Zero2-Z28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Default

[QUOTE=booz;20242027]Mine did the same thing. It was maybe a broken cable. Put a direct wire to the back of the cluster. You need to check continuity of the sensor to the pigtail back of the cluster

Check my thread.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/general-m...eme-right.html[/Q


Would anyone know what P110 is if i were to run a wire is that somthing i have to worry about or is it a stright shot from sensor to gauge ?


Last edited by Zero2-Z28; May 3, 2020 at 05:01 PM.
Reply
Old May 10, 2020 | 06:23 PM
  #16  
Supercharged111's Avatar
TECH Resident
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 931
Likes: 153
From: MI
Default

P110 is more than likely one of the plugs behind the passenger kick panel. That's where the harness comes through the firewall.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:40 PM.

story-0
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-1
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-2
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-3
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-5
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-8
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-9
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE