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Old Jan 26, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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Can somone be more specific on the direct power mod to the motors? or send me a site. PM or on here is fine thanks.
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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You think that was bad? I did it the hard way, aka according to the book. Took out the whole motor and lift assembly, let me tell you doing it that way was a royal pain. Took all afternoon, evening, and morning next day to get one side done. At least only the driver side needed done...

Of course I found the shoebox guide AFTER I did my motor the hard way....
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 04:41 PM
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10 holes? Damn man, you couldn't find the rivit in almost 3 tries for each one? I used a fairly big bit and found them all on the first try. I absolutely hate taking that lock indicator thing off(the orange thing that moves when you lock the doors)
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 08:39 PM
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yeah the lock thing was a pain too, but not much. i was drilling the wrong direction for about 5 tries before i realized the hole that is in that one 'valley' looking thing was covered up by a wire route, so i never saw it. once i pulled the wires out of the way the diagrams made more sense, but this was about 2 hours into it......
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by TA1364
Damn, both my windows barely move if at all. Whats the link to t hat guide?
http://shbox.com/page/windowmotor.html
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ROCNDAV
How so?
Originally Posted by loser98
Can somone be more specific on the direct power mod to the motors? or send me a site. PM or on here is fine thanks.

I am also availible at WS6store

http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...0c9021f7a6cb66
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 07:43 PM
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haha wasnt that hard...took a little time
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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I love my roll up windows!!
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swapping the motors wasnt bad, but it wasnt as easy as i thought it would be. After making a couple unnecesarry holes, i got hold of a tiny mirror to get a general idea of where the rivets were. To find each rivet, i could drill a pilot hole in that general area, take a peek inside, and see if i need to drill closer to the rivet. I then made a larger hole, to get full access to the rivet, then got a smaller bit to drill out the rivet. This was my first swap i did, i think i can do it much quicker the next time around.
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 10:06 AM
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could be fustrating, just depends on ur mood.....
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 11:25 AM
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So, pardon my ignorance, but to do both sides you would need two of these?

Last edited by gtarist; Feb 1, 2008 at 11:25 AM. Reason: left out a word
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 12:31 PM
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Yes, why is it labeled Passenger window mod? Can it be done on the drivers side also?
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 03:21 PM
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Yea would you have to buy two of these or does that one ONLY work for the passenger side?
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 03:29 PM
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No the kit is only for the passenger side window. There is a driver side fix that is in the process of being made.
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Tudds
10 holes? Damn man, you couldn't find the rivit in almost 3 tries for each one? I used a fairly big bit and found them all on the first try. I absolutely hate taking that lock indicator thing off(the orange thing that moves when you lock the doors)
That little orange thing is the devil..I hate it.
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by sketterman
Yea would you have to buy two of these or does that one ONLY work for the passenger side?
I haven't seen the kit, but if you buy two you should be able to extend the power wire to the DS under the dash - then set up the relays on the DS the same way. It is an identical setup.

You might need some extra wire - and you won't need the extra fuse but from a wiring aspect its the same.

Originally Posted by Black_Bird
That little orange thing is the devil..I hate it.
I've had the door panels off more times than I can count - I can have it off or on in about 2 minutes - but that little door lock continues to screw me every time.
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 09:14 PM
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Man I literally went to shoeboxes website printed the pictures and was done with my passenger side window in about 30 minutes.....damn that wasnt bad at all.
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 09:58 PM
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Ok, I did this today...passenger side. The shbox site was a helluva help! Because I know that more than likely I will be doing this again, I wrote down the "coordinates" of the rivets.

Looking at the door (with the panel off, of course), you will see 4 large rivets. The place to drill to expose the motor rivets are:

1) From the top left one, move 1 3/8" to the left, and then 1" up.
2) From the bottom left rivet, move 2 1/4" to the left, and 1 1/2" up.
3) From the bottom left rivet, move left 1"...it's right at the top edge of that hole.

I actually got the tape out and measured this out. Hope it helps!
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 11:33 PM
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I was thrown for a curve and didn't have rivets, but screws.
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ROCNDAV
Whats funny is that I never had any problem with my Camaro window motors and I have a 94. I just bought two new ones to swap out anyway since the car will be down for door panel mods, perfect time to swap them out.
Man, there's no way in hell I'd recommend replacing old good ones just for safety's sake. My 93 motors never gave me a lick of trouble after over 10 years and 160k miles with every drive window use.

It's a crap shoot no matter what. You could just as easily go through all that work and have one of the new ones pucker out in a couple months.
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