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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 01:10 AM
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Crankshaft Position Sensors cause this when they start to fail......and they can take a long time to actually fail OR throw a SES light or code.

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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 11:16 AM
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Crankshaft Position Sensors cause this when they start to fail......and they can take a long time to actually fail OR throw a SES light or code.

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Your saying that CPS' cause the relays to fail? Or that another reason why the car can fail to start is due to a failing CPS? I'm trying to understand your comment.
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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 06:42 PM
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They are ~ $4.13 a piece (before shipping) on rockauto.com, even less if you use one of the MANY 5% off coupons online.
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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 10:35 PM
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Your saying that CPS' cause the relays to fail? Or that another reason why the car can fail to start is due to a failing CPS? I'm trying to understand your comment.

No, the CPS causes the weird starting issues. Nothing to do with the relays.

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Old Sep 26, 2013 | 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by LS6427
No, the CPS causes the weird starting issues. Nothing to do with the relays.

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OK, well that definitely wasn't my problem, but it's good to have it in this thread if someone tries the relays and that doesn't fix it. I've now started 3 times without issue (2 in the morning which was always the worst for starting and yesterday after work). I think I'm about ready to call it a call it a success, but want to give it one more day just to be sure.
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Old Sep 26, 2013 | 05:46 AM
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They are ~ $4.13 a piece (before shipping) on rockauto.com, even less if you use one of the MANY 5% off coupons online.
OK, guess I can splurge on 2 of them. Though I'd rather just go locally, does anyone know if a Pepboys/Autozone would carry something like this?
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Old Sep 27, 2013 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by LS6427
Crankshaft Position Sensors cause this when they start to fail......and they can take a long time to actually fail OR throw a SES light or code.

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But the question is, can they TOTALLY fail, to the point of stopping the engine dead, while you are running down the highway, without throwing the PO335/336 codes???? (Like I am told by some can happen.)
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