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Old Oct 12, 2008 | 03:44 PM
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DRAG RADIALS. A 2.0 on street tires is awesome but stock size drag radials will cut 1-2 tenths off your short times guarenteed with out adding to the bog issue like a taller (wrinkle wall slick) tire. Go with the MT ET Streets.
You need a tune next too - expect at least 10 hp 15 tq and a fraction on et's from that. Will be alot smoother.
ok that was my next plan that and some different gears. Thanks
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 10:04 PM
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Let me clear the record on my sig.

Stock means stock right down to the tires. Actually not the stock tires but worse. Tires were some Hancook Ventus or something like that.

I cut a 1.84 with stock gears but I had headers, duals, and a lid. But, you give me a bone stock car with drag radials and a sticky track and I will show you 1.8 60's all day. Better than that with gears.
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by firehawk#682
I get 2.06 60ft times and 8.59 8th miles time with a trap of 84 mph with the stuff in the sig. Take is around 2,000-3,000 DA i would say. Anything i can do to make it better. I slip off the line already otherwise i bog down. Im also running regular street tires. I would like to get my 60ft time down any advise?
You need some drag radials first off.

When you take the car to the track do this. With the rear tires wet put car in 2nd gear rev it up and dump the clutch and just do a good rolling burnout keeping rpms at 5000 or higher. That wheel speed is important doing a burnout. The reason I say do a rolling burnout is because you may not need to roast the tires to hook. Hold car at 4000 and dump clutch while going to the floor at the same time. What you want is to spin about halfway through 1st gear then bite. If it bites too soon it will pull your rpms down to far and it will bog and will take way to long to wind 1st gear out. If it spins violently to the point the car isnt going anywhere you may need to lower pressure and/or do a longer burnout. If the car bites as soon as you dump the clutch and doesnt spin at all then drive around water next time and do not do a burnout.

It all depends on track. My local track sucks on practice/grudge race night because mostly street cars running and they are pulling up the good rubber the drag cars left from the week before. On Saturday which is their weekly race day and its 90% drag cars running slicks, they put down good rubber and the track will nearly pull your shoes off when you walk on it.

I had a set of Nitto drag radials that hooked good at first, then started getting hard and they didnt hook at all anymore. The stickiest drag radial is gonna be your M/T ET Street Radial.
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 02:19 PM
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Guys, this is a real simple thing to figure out.

If you have a stock car, on stock gearing and 28" slicks and you dump from 5500 RPM, that means the rear tires will be spinning hard enough to move the car 46mph!

There's no way in hell a stock car is going to accomplish this. Even some of the higher HP M6 cars don't get up there and leave off the limiter. You have to find a balance.


You want to make that car work? Slip the clutch from 2500-3k with those ET drags and I gurantee you'll be in the low 1.8 to high 1.7 range.

When I say slip, I don't mean ride it out, I mean slip it till the car starts moving, then dump it the rest of the way out. Do not go full WOT until the clutch is on its way out.

The car will grab, and you should pull right on through the 60' marker with a respectable time.
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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guys the key word everyones missing is PRACTICE! i was coming out high 1.9's on a street tire and on m/t dr's im ave 1.5's and have dipped into the 1.4's and im a 6spd . but the **** didn't come over night it takes a lot of track time .... start with a good drag radial and set your tire pressure at 19lbs and leave about 3500 or so slipping the clutch a little.
things will start to break though ......be prepared to spend money lol
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ok well i try more next year. Winters coming now so ill have to wait.
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Easy for you to say with a 12 bolt. Its alot of finesse with stock rear.

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guys the key word everyones missing is PRACTICE! i was coming out high 1.9's on a street tire and on m/t dr's im ave 1.5's and have dipped into the 1.4's and im a 6spd . but the **** didn't come over night it takes a lot of track time .... start with a good drag radial and set your tire pressure at 19lbs and leave about 3500 or so slipping the clutch a little.
things will start to break though ......be prepared to spend money lol
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Full-Force
Easy for you to say with a 12 bolt. Its alot of finesse with stock rear.
made my 10 bolt last 3 years of finessing street tires and dr's you mean it easy for an auto ...autos last 3 times as long im a true gear shifter through and through the point was PRACTICE experience talking here

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It's going to be rough sailing in a stock M6 when you drag race. More gear will help avoid bogging but then you'll really start breaking stuff if you launch hard.

About the only part of the drive train that can survive for a while is the t56, and then clutch problems could take it out, too.
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